Not So Young But Angry Conservatives Unite

Getting sick of the progressively worse slant and obvious bias of the media? Got booted out of other sites for offending too many liberals? Make this your home. If you SPAM here, you're gone. Trolling? Gone. Insult other posters I agree with. Gone. Get the pic. Private sanctum, private rules. No Fairness Doctrine and PC wussiness tolerated here..... ECCLESIASTES 10:2- The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of a fool to the left.

Wednesday, November 30, 2005

Best of Christmas

OK, as you know, Nick is trying to take a break here and there from politics. It's theraputic, and funny to see how someone else is warped and twisted enough to make up some of the following reasonings.

Best Christmas movies, ever.

1. It's a Wonderful Life- George Bailey contemplates suicide, God sends angel to talk George out of it, George sees what could have been, and what is, and realizes life is a great gift of The Lord. And America, did not suck and was not a conquest crazy land, it rocked and was number one for good reason! Also a time, when God's name didn't include dammit, or a few other four letter words. Frank Capra, Jimmy Stewart, Donna Reed, you're all missed big time!

2. Christmas Vacation- complete difference of Jimmy Stewart's classic, but seeing Eddie empty a chemical toilet into a sewer, Snots the Dog, and Great Aunt Bethany saying the Pledge of Allegiance and notGrace, is all funny it's own sick and menacing way. If you watch, Elaine from Seinfeld is a neighbor who catches hell from the Griswolds antics.

3.Christmas Carol - My favorite is the version with George C Scott as Ebeneezer Scrooge, but Dickens immortal tale of loveloss, redemption, and Christmas is immortal. Scott made the role of a scowling and mean Scrooge believable, but also his leap to Tiny Tim's new grandfather figure in the end.

4. DIE HARD I & DIE HARD II- That's right, nothing says Merry Christmas better than Bruce Willis stacking dead terrorists ten high! Blowing up the bad guys, and saving Americans and other innocents, and yes his wife. Wife gets in trouble, hmmm sounds like Kim Bauer on 24 (minus the stupid cougar episode). John McClane, one bad MF, and a guy who will not take being screwed with on the day of the Lord's birth. Yippy Kayay.........

5. The Ref- Yes Denis Leary and Kevin Spacey have dueling rants, as Leary takes Spacey and his disfunctional wife and son hostage. Some of it is painful, other parts, gut busting humor. Leary is classic as the thief who ends up wanting to give up crime. Not because of its risks or lack of money potential, just his hostages were annoying as crap!

6.Lethal Weapon- Christmas is the setting, and yes Mel Gibson kills guys in a way that inspired Die Hard, A Long Kiss Goodnight, and later Jerry Bruckheimer's slough of films. However, Mel's detective Martin Riggs, is a suicidal adrenaline junkie of a cop. In the end, he has a friend in his partner, wants to save the partner's family, and in the end regains part of his soul, and even visits his wife's grave with some sense of peace.

7. Christmas Story- Ralphie Parker, a 10 year old kid, is in need of a BB Gun, he gets that and a whole lot more for Christmas. Classic slice of Americana, grumpy dad, doting mom, teachers from hell, and Ralphie getting his mouth washed out with soap. Deck The Hall With Bow of Rory, Fararararah, Rarararah......

8. White Christmas- Classic with Bing Crosby and Danny Kaye as a pair of crooners, former war buddies, who take a wild and comic tour, and end up saving Christmas and the business of their former commander. There's some romance, some human, but a whole lot of singing.

9. A Midnight Clear- A newer war movie. Gory and disturbing in some scenes, but an interesting story of WWII cease fire, and Americans and Germans seeking to lay down arms and enjoy the winter season. Sadly, it was not meant to be during The Battle of The Bulge. Stars Ethan Hawke, Gary Sinise, Peter Berg, and John C McGinley. Different type of war film, but a good one.

10. Polar Express- Tom Hanks lends his vocal talents in a story about a child who never had Santa or Christmas and is taken on a journey to the North Pole. He meets other kids and finally Santa.

TV SHOWS and Christmas:

1. Charlie Brown Christmas- Though recently lampooned and horribly butchered by Denis Leary's Merry F#&%in Christmas Special, this classic cartoon shows Charlie Brown trying and failing to get a tree, and finally Linus puts everyone straight on Christmas. It was overtly Christian, and still gets lots of airtime nowadays, lawsuits be damned.

2. Rudolph The Red Nosed Reindeer- Classic claymation about Rudolph, Hermie The Elf, Yukon Cornelius, The Bumble, and other characters. Rudolph saves the day. We see a skinny Santa, he'd been on South Beach, and then Santa does Atkins and fattens up.

3. A Freakin Family Guy Christmas- Peter Griffin, Brian, Lois, Stewie, and the whole Griffin clan make fun of Christmas celebrations and TV and the artificial traditions to the Nth. Lois goes off after everything goes wrong. Worth a watch, but not for the kids.

4. Saturday Night Live Christmas Special- Between Steve Martin's Christmas Wish, Belushi being a whino Department Store Santa, Mainway Christmas watch, Chris Farley as The Motivational Santa, and the lost ending to It's A Wonderful Life (Dana Carvey as George Bailey, and the Baileys bring a lynch mob and a can of whoop ass to Mr. Potter). Will Farrell as Andy Williams is classic, spinning, and singing, and well, losing it.....

5. Bugs Bunny Christmas Special- old school funny, with Bugs as the Christmas Ghosts, and as Cratchet's helper, and Yosemite Sam as Scrooge. Funny, worth a watch.

That's just a few. Name some others if I missed em......

Now Songs......

No summaries, just a list for this one.....

1. Christmas Song- Nat King Cole.
2. Oh Holy Night- NKC, or even Josh Groban.
3. Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer- Gene Autry or Harry Connick Jr.
4. Winter Wonderland- Johnny Mathis version.
5. God Rest Yea Merry Gentlemen- Bing Crosby.
6. White Christmas- Bing Crosby.
7. It's The Most Wonderful Time of the Year-Andy Williams.
8. The Grinch Song- Boris Karloff.
9. Holly Jolly Christmas- Burl Ives.
10. Little Drummer Boy-Bing Crosby and David Bowie
11. We Three Kings-Orchestra
12. Christmas in Sarajevo and Christmas Canon- Trans-Siberian Orchestra.
13. Hark The Herald Angels Sing- any classic or crooner version.
14. Believe- Josh Groban.
15. Let It Snow, Let It Snow- Vaughan Monroe.
16. I'll Be Home for Christmas- Doris Day.
17. Grandma Got Run Over By a Reindeer.
18. Blue Christmas and Peace In The Valley- Elvis Presley- The King!
19. Here Comes Santa Claus- tie between Gene Autry and Elvis Presley.
20. It's Christmastime- City on a Hill (has Third Day singer, Mac Powell)


New Favorite Things Song

Listening to Howard and Nancy's bleatings.
Makes me get clubs to start up some beatings.
Putting the Democrats tit in a ring
These are a few of my favorite things.

There's always the Wise Man in a Turban.
Much more smart, than that Dumbass Dick Durbin.
Durbin cries, how the soldiers yelling back stings,
These are a few of my favorite things.

When the dog bites
And the donkey bleats.
The elephant stomps.
Jackass under feet.(repeat 2X)

Christmas is still being taken to court.
Liberals suing Christians, their favorite sport.
Too bad you liberals are hung like a string,
These are a few of my favorite things!

When the dog bites,
and the donkey bleats.
The elephant stomps,
jackass under feet.(repeat 2X)

Sound of Music and Eddie Fisher, eat your heart out!

Christmas Rant

OK, you liberal fuzzballs. I've frickin had it. You wanna celebrate Christmas, you better know what the meaning of Christmas is. It's not happy gift giving season, since that can be any frickin time of the year! It's not lit and obnoxious decorations season! It's not even, eat til you shoot your blood pressure up season! NO! It's Christmas. CHRIST-MAS. And yes, we know Christ's birth was not on December 25, but it's commemorated. Just like the 4th of July celebrates the signing on the 3rd of July. Kind of how Easter skips year to year, thank you Jewish and Gregorian calendar infighting! I'm not here to talk about all the crap that got tacked onto Christmas! Not trees, not reindeer, not Cousin Eddie and his chemical toilet! Christmas, and why it's under attack!

OK, first reason why Christmas is under attack. It's a Christian Holiday. Oh my Lord, it is a Christian Day! Ugh! Nooooooo. Considering about 75-80% of the US is Christian or identifies itself as Christian, you ought to be happy we aren't tackin on the Catholic days all the time! Prepare for Fishstick Friday if you know what's good for you. After all, Bush has made the US a theocracy you say( unlike the paradise theocrats in Iran and Saudi Arabia who stone women for being raped and cut hands off for theft.) Christians happen to be the majority here. And let's be honest, Christians, despite the bogeyman crap you guys say, are more tolerant of other faiths than the godless and overeducated soulless plutocrats out there.

Celebrating anything Christian must irk some of you. Fine, it's your right. Just stop taking our rights away. Don't screw up hundreds of years of holiday tradition, just because you found out Santa was fake or God didn't give you everything you thought you deserved. Read the Bible, tell me what God says we deserve, and why he didn't give it to you! Trust me, you don't want what God should do to you! Grace be to God? Dang right. Grace is when God gives you what you don't deserve, while holding back what you really deserve to have happen. Think about that one.

Also, Christmas is a day of giving, and remembrance, of a God who came for ALL MANKIND to have the opportunity to seek and dwell with God. Not just whites, not just blacks, but everyone. However, some of you squandered that opportunity and are now wanting NO ONE to get the opportunity of knowing God. Apparently, if it didn't work for you, it shouldn't work for anyone. Well, too bad, God's bigger than you, you ACLUseless morons!

And when did Christmas become a bad word? I remember saying Jesus Christ was fine, til cable made Christ have a few choice middle names. Thanks for nothing, George Carlin. It became a bad word, since many new up and coming so-called leaders, were raised that Christians are bad, the Bible is evil, and ambiguity and lukewarm stances are better. Surely you're not serving Rudolph, Frosty and Santa with liberal lawsuit summons for abridging some turd's right to see everyone else as miserable as they are? You're banning Christmas Carols, you frickin dolt! Lighten up! It's music, and it's good music. Oh Holy Night! Oh Little Town of Bethlehem! That's right, Bing Crosby, Nat King Cole, and every other singer is out to get you this Christmas! They're forcing you to hear carols and God Talk. Solution: Turn off the radio, or just leave the country.

And one thing that irks me, is shopping. Shopping is heeeeeeelllllll! You get up early to go kick someone's butt at Wal-Mart to get some marked down 5th rate TV. Or you wait in line to buy cheap crap, only to buy more crap a year later! Why? You're all crazy. For those of you who do the 5 AM shopping willingly, get your head examined. Those who get tugged along, take your nuts out of the wife's purse and say NO! I wanna sleep off my turkey, dangit! And those who have no choice, God Help you. Welcome to money bleeding, and welcome to long lines and Gladiator Shopping rushes.

Travel is also a crapfest! If the weather isn't screwing your flight or train, then gas prices made driving less of a prospect. And everything is hosed, thanks to that. But, let's not forget to thank our Muslim Buddies and September 11. Thanks for the long lines, and random bag checks, Habib! Frickin punks. And searching blue hairs and the elderly, do they look like the 19 hijackers? What Die Hard movie had a brigade of elderly terrorists, I ask you? Ever heard of hijacking a plane at needlepoint? That's right, Granny's gone militant! Uuuuughhhhhh.

I'm dogging on travel, shopping, and stupid suits to make a point.

Don't even start me on family and fights after spiked eggnog! Another time, another story for my lawyer to advise me to revise and word carefully. Let's just say you do Christmas with the extended family, it's either the rich snobs from The Ref (funny Denis Leary movie) or it's Cousin Eddie emptying his chemical toilet into your sewer! (Merry Christmas! Sh-tter's full!) I like Christmas Vacation, SHOOT ME! Yes, while we love our family, there's the family that makes Peter Griffin's clan look normal! Count your blessings with immediate family, the extended family has more skeletons in it's closet than Ted Kennedy and all of his sunken cars! And speaking of useless drunks, we all have the relative who gets trashed and just about ruins Christmas. Then he falls down and hits his junk against something, and even granny gets a good laugh. Yes, we all have dysfunctional relatives, sometimes, they're worth a frickin laugh or two!

OK, Christmas, is more than families, food, presents, suits, and other stuff. It's Christ's birth, so let's keep it in perspective.


Tuesday, November 29, 2005

Soldiers Sick and Tired of Negative Portrayal of their duty in Iraq


The Iraq story: how troops see it
By Mark Sappenfield Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor

BROOK PARK, OHIO - Cpl. Stan Mayer has seen the worst of war. In the leaves of his photo album, there are casual memorials to the cost of the Iraq conflict - candid portraits of friends who never came home and graphic pictures of how insurgent bombs have shredded steel and bone.
Yet the Iraq of Corporal Mayer's memory is not solely a place of death and loss. It is also a place of hope. It is the hope of the town of Hit, which he saw transform from an insurgent stronghold to a place where kids played on Marine trucks. It is the hope of villagers who whispered where roadside bombs were hidden. But most of all, it is the hope he saw in a young Iraqi girl who loved pens and Oreo cookies.

And the Main Stream Media will never give that airtime. You have to look to blogs, Drudge, and other alternative media, since the so-called watchdogs of the US are trying to attack their own and not the bad guys. All we hear about is how many kids our troops kill. How many more were liberated? How many are not dead, thanks to our troops freeing them from a childrens' prison? Answer that if you dare....

Like many soldiers and marines returning from Iraq, Mayer looks at the bleak portrayal of the war at home with perplexity - if not annoyance. It is a perception gap that has put the military and media at odds, as troops complain that the media care only about death tolls, while the media counter that their job is to look at the broader picture, not through the soda straw of troops' individual experiences.

Translated media message: We make the news, stop telling us what to report. We report what we please. In short, shut up you stupid soldiers. You don't matter unless we say you do....Broad picture? Yeah, depends on who paints on the canvas.....

Yet as perceptions about Iraq have neared a tipping point in Congress, some soldiers and marines worry that their own stories are being lost in the cacophony of terror and fear. They acknowledge that their experience is just that - one person's experience in one corner of a war-torn country. Yet amid the terrible scenes of reckless hate and lives lost, many members of one of the hardest-hit units insist that they saw at least the spark of progress.

Spark of progress? Convenient how that's been buried under Nancy Pelosi's botox ridden face, and Ted Kennedy's gin breathe. Why don't we hear about the progress? Oh wait, libs like Ted Turner run the media. Silly me.

"We know we made a positive difference," says Cpl. Jeff Schuller of the 3rd Battalion, 25th Marines, who spent all but one week of his eight-month tour with Mayer. "I can't say at what level, but I know that where we were, we made it better than it was when we got there."
It is the simplest measure of success, but for the marine, soldier, or sailor, it may be the only measure of success. In a business where life and death rest on instinctive adherence to thoroughly ingrained lessons, accomplishment is ticked off in a list of orders followed and tasks completed. And by virtually any measure, America's servicemen and women are accomplishing the day-to-day tasks set before them.
Yet for the most part, America is less interested in the success of Operation Iron Fist, for instance, than the course of the entire Iraq enterprise. "What the national news media try to do is figure out: What's the overall verdict?" says Brig. Gen. Volney Warner, deputy commandant of the Army Command and General Staff College. "Soldiers don't do overall verdicts."

Overall verdict? Bet the overall verdict was a bleak one in late 1942, before Operation Torch or Stalingrad was encircled. Thank God the troops don't have to listen to the banterings of the Goebbels troops in the media. Just keep doing you job, troops. Screw the media.

Yet soldiers clearly feel that important elements are being left out of the media's overall verdict. On this day, a group of Navy medics gather around a table in the Cleveland-area headquarters of the 3/25 - a Marine reserve unit that has converted a low-slung school of pale brick and linoleum tile into its spectacularly red-and-gold offices.
Their conversation could be a road map of the kind of stories that military folks say the mainstream media are missing. One colleague made prosthetics for an Iraqi whose hand and foot had been cut off by insurgents. When other members of the unit were sweeping areas for bombs, the medics made a practice of holding impromptu infant clinics on the side of the road.
They remember one Iraqi man who could not hide his joy at the marvel of an electric razor. And at the end of the 3/25's tour, a member of the Iraqi Army said: "Marines are not friends; marines are brothers," says Lt. Richard Malmstrom, the battalion's chaplain.
"It comes down to the familiar debate about whether reporters are ignoring the good news," says Peter Hart, an analyst at Fairness & Accuracy in Reporting, a usually left-leaning media watchdog in New York.

They're ignoring it, no matter how much spin the lefties put in to justify it. 'W-w-well, progress is fine, but I see troops dying every day. We've lost over 2000 troops in 3 years. We lost over 2000 in 3 hours at Pearl Harbor and on D-Day, what's your point?

In Hit, where marines stayed in force to keep the peace, the progress was obvious, say members of the 3/25. The residents started burning trash and fixing roads - a sign that the city was returning to a sense of normalcy. Several times, "people came up to us [and said]: 'There's a bomb on the side of the road. Don't go there,' " says Pfc. Andrew Howland.
Part of the reason that such stories usually aren't told is simply the nature of the war. Kidnappings and unclear battle lines have made war correspondents' jobs almost impossible. Travel around the country is dangerous, and some reporters never venture far from their hotels. "It has to have some effect on what we see: You end up with reporting that waits for the biggest explosion of the day," says Mr. Hart.

And Hart tells us how the vultures work. Thanks Peter. Now we know that the saying, IF IT BLEEDS IT LEADS, is how the media responds to a war of liberation....

To the marines of the 3/25, the explosions clearly do not tell the whole story. Across America, many readers know the 3/25 only as the unit that lost 15 marines in less than a week - nine of them in the deadliest roadside bombing against US forces during the war. When the count of Americans killed in Iraq reached 2,000, this unit again found itself in the stage lights of national notice as one of the hardest hit.
But that is not the story they tell. It is more than just the dire tone of coverage - though that is part of it. It is that Iraq has touched some of these men in ways that even they have trouble explaining. This, after all, has not been a normal war. Corporals Mayer and Schuller went over not to conquer a country, but to help win its hearts and minds. In some cases, though, it won theirs.

Yes our troops are such conquistadors and killing off people in numbers that would make the SS jealous. Yeah, read about them rebuilding schools and homes. Stinking media.

Schuller, a heavyweight college wrestler with a thatch of blond hair and engine blocks for arms, cannot help smiling when he speaks of giving an old man a lighter: "He thought it was the coolest thing." Yet both he and the blue-eyed, square-jawed Mayer pause for a moment before they talk about the two 9-year-old Iraqis whom members of their battalion dubbed their "girlfriends."
The first time he saw them, Mayer admits that he was making the calculations of a man in the midst of a war. He was tired, he was battered, and he was back at a Hit street corner that he had patrolled many times before. In Iraq, repetition of any sort could be an invitation of the wrong sort - an event for which insurgents could plan. So Mayer and Schuller took out some of the candy they carried, thinking that if children were around, perhaps the terrorists wouldn't attack.
It was a while before the children realized that these two marines, laden with arms to the limit of physical endurance, were not going to hurt them. But among the children who eventually came, climbing on the pair's truck and somersaulting in the street, there were always the same two girls. When they went back to base, they began to hoard Oreos and other candy in a box.
"They became our one little recess from the war," says Mayer. "You're seeing some pretty ridiculous tragedies way too frequently, and you start to get jaded. The kids on that street - I got to realize I was still a human being to them."
It happened one day when he was on patrol. Out of nowhere, a car turned the corner and headed down the alley at full speed. "A car coming at you real fast and not stopping in Iraq is not what you want to see," says Mayer. Yet instead of jumping in his truck, he stood in the middle of the street and pushed the kids behind him.
The car turned. Now, Mayer and Schuller can finish each other's sentences when they think about the experience. "You really start to believe that you protect the innocent," says Schuller. "It sounds like a stupid cliché...."
"But it's not," adds Mayer. "You are in the service of others."
For Mayer, who joined the reserves because he wanted to do something bigger than himself, and for Schuller, a third-generation marine, Iraq has given them a sense of achievement. Now when they look at the black-and-white pictures of marines past in the battalion headquarters, "We're adding to that legacy," says Schuller.
This is what they wish to share with the American people - and is also the source of their frustration. Their eight months in Iraq changed their lives, and they believe it has changed the lives of the Iraqis they met as well. On the day he left, Mayer gave his "girlfriend" a bunch of pens - her favorite gift - wrapped in a paper that had a picture of the American flag, the Iraqi flag, and a smiley face. The man with the lighter asked Schuller if he was coming back. He will if called upon, he says.
Whether or not these notes of grace and kindness are as influential as the dirge of war is open to question. But many in the military feel that they should at least be a part of the conversation.
Says Warner of reaching an overall verdict: "I'm not sure that reporting on terrorist bombings with disproportionate ink is adequately answering that question."

And there we have it. The troops are doing good. The media ignores it, or spins the death to where that's all that appears to happen. Thanks, we understand that the media is more than a bunch of attention craving despots. They're are now degrading and morally attacking our troops. Thanks a heap. Glad this media never existed in WWII, we';d be flying the swastika if their surrender and doom and gloom coverage were in existence.

Keep up the good work soldiers. Even if the media doesn't want anyone to see, everyone else knows the truth.

God Bless you men and women in uniform.

Wednesday, November 23, 2005

Slight Break

OK, kids, it's time to take a slight break from the world of politics and blogging.

Time fro Turkey and football, but mainly to give thanks and remember what we have to be thankful for.

What are you most thankful for?

Will be back in business here and there, just not so much during The Holidays and Christmastime.

Have a good Thanksgiving, watch it in the air or on the roads, and enjoy yourselves. Everyone one of you!

Friday, November 18, 2005

Family Guy Filets FCC

The Family Guy, another satire driven animated show, by no means for kids under 17, is nailing the FCC for its overreaction.

Read and enjoy!

Here's the song lyrics to The Freakin FCC Song.

Family Guy FCC Song (jaunty, ala Rogers and Hammerstein)
They will clean up all your talking in a menace such as this
They will make you take a tinkle when you want to take a piss
And they’ll make you call fellatio a trouser friendly kiss

It’s the plain situation! There will be no negiotiation!
With the fellows at the freakin FCC!

They’re as stuffy as the stuffiest of the special interest groups…
Make a joke about your bowels and they order in the troops
Any baby with a brain could tell them everybody poops!

Take a tip, take a lesson! you’ll never win by messin’
With the fellas at the freakin’ FCC


And if you find yourself with some you sexy thing...
You’re gonna have to do her with your ding-a-ling…
cause you can’t say penis!

So they sent this little warning they’re prepared to do the worst
And they stuck it in your mailbox hoping you could be co-erced
I can think of quite another place they should have stuck it first!

They may just be neurotic, or possible psychotic
They’re the fellas at the freakin FCC!


South Park Skewers Scientology and Tom Cruise, uh oh, are they in trouble?


South Park is satire, at least they're equal opportunity offenders....


South Park Mocks Tom Cruise, Scientology In Newest Episode
by M. CentanniNov 18, 2005

You know, they say South Park creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone go too far. Well, admittedly they sometimes do, but they are also extremely funny and irreverent. No one and no topic is sacred. They are equal opportunity insulters and frankly quite bright as well.
Sure, the Jesus and Friends bit is offensive to me as a Christian, but on the other hand, the Satan episodes are rather humorous.
The duo's most recent targets are none other than Tom Cruise and Scientology, thereby setting their crudely animated sights on topics previously deemed "off limits" due to the actor's close ties to Comedy Central's sister company, Paramount Pictures.
The episode starts off with Stan visiting a Church office, where he is hailed as the reincarnation of L. Ron Hubbard by the leaders of Scientology because of his "ot-9" results on the Churches E-meter test. Several Hollywood A-listers gather outside Stan's house, with Tom Cruise going in to talk to the 'Prophet.' Cruise asks Stan what
he thinks of him as an actor and Stan simply says "You're O.K. I mean you're not Leonardo DiCaprio or Napolean Dynamite or anything." To which Cruise responds by saying: "I'm a failure in the eyes of the Prophet!" and locking himself in Stan's bedroom closet. Cruise is then begged by Stan and his entire family to 'Come out of the Closet, Tom.'
Cruise won't come out, so John Travolta, Nicole Kidman and R. Kelly go in to try and persuade him. All end up joining him in the closet except for Kidman.
Meanwhile, the head of the church reveals the Secret doctrine of life behind Scientology to Stan. He tells Stan that the reasons for everyone's woes in the world are because the Evil Lord Xenu frozen some alien souls and dumped them into a volcano in ancient Hawaii. The aliens' souls thawed and found human hosts at the dawn of time, inflicting the woes of the world on man. While this story is being told, the words "Scientologists Really Believe This" are shown in various ways on the screen.
Stan eventually buys in and sets his pen to write down new "rules" and "laws" for the church. Kyle, Cartman and Kenny try to talk some sense into Stan: "L. Ron Hubbard is a sci-fi writer that got busted by the Feds for living with boys on a boat numerous times," says Kyle.
Stan comes out dressed like Caesar 'as the reincarnate of L. Ron Hubbard' ...but Stan, after realizing that the Church was only in it for the money, just can't go through with perpetuating the lie.
"Scientology is just a big fat global scam," Stan says.
Only then does Cruise come out of the closet [along with Travolta and R.Kelly] and threatens to sue Stan saying: "I'll sue you in England!"
The unwanted cartoon cameo sure comes at a rough time for Cruise. The actor recently dumped his career-wrecking publicist sister, Lee Anne DeVette, and has been trying to restore his image with help from Rogers & Cowan spin-masters, Paul Bloch and Arnold Robinson.
Comedy Central's parent company, Viacom (which also owns Paramount, Cruises' studio), probably wasn't too keen either about once again seeing its big-money Mission Impossible 3 star ridiculed.
Knowing Parker and Stone, they probably threatened to walk out if they weren't allowed to do their irreverent thing.
Comedy Central spokesman, Tony Fox, told Radaronline that he didn't know any details of the show because, "these guys literally write and rewrite the episode almost right up to the moment it airs." Asked whether taking potshots at Cruise and Scientology was a wise move, Fox said the network has Stone and Parker's back: "If you know South Park, they are free and have been free to satirize anybody and anything they want to. They've made fun of MTV, they've made fun of Viacom, they've made fun of Comedy Central, and we've never interfered with them."

Missed it? Go here to view at Hat Tip - Glen

Oh My God! Bush Screwed The Economy! Death to...oh wait, it's doing fine? Oops.

Proof that the Chicken Littles of this world are DEAD WRONG, yet again.

Approval polls be damned.....

S&P ends the week at 4 1/2 Year High.

Oil Prices drop below $56 a barrel, lowest price since June of 2005.

Wonder if unemployment shot up to new highs, yet under this terrible Bush economy.

Nope, still lower than Clinton's best year of economic growth.


Check it out, the GOP Leadership in Congress is calling for an Up or Down Vote on the Iraq War. There is no resolution or even executive action. This is rather, drawing a line in the sand and seeing who's in for the long haul and who will cut and run.

Nice work, boys......

And I say, kudos to the leadership on this one. This is a better call than yanking Miers. Much better than starting to address the war snivelers, finally.

At least we'll see who is really behind finishing our work in Iraq, and who is a Snivel Chamberlain type. We'll see who is committed to freedom, and who is committed to political supremacy. We'll see who is for democracy, and who wants it controlled and used only on their watch.

This may be a key turning point for 2006 Elections.

Can't wait to see the final tally on this one.

O'Reilly draws Pelosi's Ire


Fox News commentator Bill O'Reilly's suggestion that San Francisco is fair game for terrorists because of voters' stance against military recruiters in schools was "outrageous" and "beyond the circle of civil discussion," House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said Wednesday.

There was no suggestion of that. Besides, the terrorists would never attack a city with so many of their biggest fans. They'll kill em later. A collaborator is the person hoping that they will be the last one to be eaten by the alligator, after feeding everyone else to it. Winston Churchill would be shocked at this champerpot of Chamberlain-esque liberals....

On his program Monday, O'Reilly defended as "satirical" his suggestion that the United States shouldn't respond to a terrorist attack on San Francisco in response to city voters' opposition to military recruiters. But the San Francisco Democrat wasn't laughing.

She never laughs, she is always serious, albeit no one except San Fransicko takes her seriously......

"It's not funny, it's not satirical -- it's outrageous," Pelosi said Wednesday after addressing the topic briefly on the Fox News program "Your World With Neil Cavuto."
Pelosi told The Chronicle that she had voted against Proposition I, the measure that prompted O'Reilly to suggest it was open season on Coit Tower for al Qaeda. The nonbinding measure suggested that military recruiters be banned from public schools, colleges and universities, and encouraged the city to fund scholarships and job training for low-income students so they wouldn't be compelled to join the military for economic reasons.

BS, Nancy, you probably voted for it, since you undermine the military every chance you get. City funds low income folks? Like the $400 that Mayor Newsome promised to pay the homeless. Too bad that money never went to food or getting a job, right, Twosome?

O'Reilly said on his radio show, "The Radio Factor," that if San Franciscans didn't support the military, the city should be cut off from federal dollars.
Pelosi said she agreed with the measure's supporters that some military recruiters promise too much. On the other hand, she said, the military remains a legitimate option for some young people.

Promise too much? I don't think so. I think anyone with half a brain knows they are not being stationed at Monterry California there first year in the military. This isn't Private Benjamin, Pelosi. This is real life. Stop taking lies from Michael Moore's Fattenhyped 9/11 movie.... Twit.

"I was not behind (Prop. I) 100 percent," Pelosi said. "But that's not the issue here.
"This is more about Fox News and what it thinks are the acceptable limits of what can be said on the air," Pelosi said. "Everybody knows what O'Reilly is about. It's more about the network, and what judgments it makes."

Fox News is evil! The Sky is falling! Ruuuuuun!

She didn't call for Fox or Westwood One, which carries O'Reilly's daily radio show in 400 markets, to discipline the commentator. "I don't have time to think about Bill O'Reilly's employment status, but this is offensive to San Francisco," she said. "The American people know what's funny and what's not. And Fox goes ahead on this at its own peril."

And that's probably because you slam Fox News all you can, and your ilk in San Fran. Could you blame Fox if they did not like you? I would not.

Representatives of Fox News and Westwood One had no comment on Pelosi's remarks, although Westwood One said O'Reilly was not facing disciplinary action. A call to O'Reilly's television producer was not returned.
"We welcome all viewpoints on our air," a Fox spokesman said in an e-mail last week.
O'Reilly was set off both by the military-recruiting measure and Proposition H, which bans handgun ownership in the city.

And the lefties will avoid Fox, because they fear no fed questions, and no friendly wink and nod types at MSNBC or CNN provides......

"You know, if I'm the president of the United States, I walk right into Union Square, I set up my little presidential podium and I say, 'Listen, citizens of San Francisco, if you vote against military recruiting, you're not going to get another nickel in federal funds,' " O'Reilly said Nov. 8 on his radio show as San Franciscans were approving the two measures.
"Fine. You want to be your own country? Go right ahead," O'Reilly went on. "And if al Qaeda comes in here and blows you up, we're not going to do anything about it. We're going to say, 'Look, every other place in America is off limits to you except San Francisco. You want to blow up the Coit Tower? Go ahead.' "

Damn right! They forgo protection, they get what they deserve.

O'Reilly's comments made national news after The Chronicle reported them last week. They inspired everything from support on blogs to rips from on-air rivals such as MSNBC's Keith Olbermann, who said Monday that O'Reilly "has always been viewed as a guy who is, you know, several light bulbs short of a marquee."

Don't be too mad at Keith, he's dead last in the ratings, while O Reilly is kicking butt in Nielsen turf. O'Reilly isn't perfect, but he did make some good points...

On Tuesday, San Francisco Supervisor Chris Daly introduced a resolution calling on Fox to fire O'Reilly for his "flagrant disregard for the safety and welfare of San Franciscans."
On the air this week, O'Reilly has alluded, with few specifics, to the "Internet smear sites" that are trying to get him fired over his comments.
"I'm glad the smear sites made a big deal out of it," O'Reilly said. "Now we can all know who was with the anti-military Internet crowd. We'll post the names of all who support the smear merchants on So check with us."

Bill, consider me on your side. The smear merchants, plenty of em post here and everywhere, as they have no real lives, except interfering with others' lives, will continue their tirades. Wear that like a badge of honor. Bring it on, you pansies.

No such list was posted Wednesday night, but the site did contain a poll question: "Should Americans who disagree with San Francisco's anti-military stance avoid traveling to the city?"

It's your choice. Avoid it, like you will France or other non friendly destinations. After all, the quislings will continue their joy trips over there. San Francisco: A State of Mind. San Fransicko: We Cater to Every Urge. San Fransicko: Sodom By The Bay. San Francisco: Watch Your A.....

Hillary Clinton not fan of new children's book


Hillary Clinton's Irked by Childrens Book

New York Sen. Hillary Clinton is attacking a children's book that depicts her as an inveterate liberal who tries to regulate a lemonade stand run by two budding entrepeneurs.
The book, "Help! Mom! There Are Liberals Under My Bed!," by Katharine DeBrecht, stars "Congresswoman Clunkton" - a kind of cartoon verson of Nurse Rachet in a pantsuit who orders the young boys to reduce the sugar in their lemonade and add broccoli to each glass,
"Can’t wait for the sequel, Help! Mom! I Can’t Read This Book Because Republicans Have Cut Literacy Programs!” Clinton's spokesman Philippe Reines fumed recently in comments to The Hill newspaper.
A few days later, the Hillary flak lauched another attack.
"It’s not the liberal under the bed that they should be worried about,” he snapped, "it’s the sales that are in the basement.”
In fact, "Help! Mom!" has been flying off bookstore shelves since its release in September, topping the Barnes & Noble bestseller list and climbing on Amazon's list to just behind ""Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince."
DeBrecht tells NewsMax that she wrote "Help! Mom!" because there were no childrens' books written from a conservative perspective.
On the other side of the political aisle, she noted, children are inundated with books like "It's Just a Plant: A Children's Story of Marijuana" and "No George, No: The Reparenting of George W. Bush "
"I can cite a ton of examples on the left that constantly attack conservatism," DeBrecht said. "But there was nothing there to basically teach traditional values."
The South Carolina-based writer got the idea for "Help! Mom!" after watching the 2000 GOP convention with her own young boys. Four years later, DeBrecht saw an ad on for Xulon Press and self-published her story.
"Help! Mom!" caught the eye of Florida talk radio host Greg Allen, who put DeBrecht on his "Right Balance" radio show.
Allen helped put her in touch with World Ahead publishing, which reissued DeBrecht's book with new artwork under its Kids Ahead imprint.
Just two days after it was re-published in Sept. 2004, "Help! Mom!" was touted by conservative mega star Rush Limbaugh, who said his "hat was off" the the conservative childrens book writer.
The endorsement catapulted "Help Mom" to the top of the Amazon and Barnes & Noble bestseller lists.
Liberal reaction was swift. One left-wing website began comparing DeBrecht’s book to Nazi propaganda. Another, the Democratic Underground, trashed her as one of their "Top 10 Conservative Idiots.”
Far from slowing DeBrecht down, however, the overheated response has only encouraged her to begin a new project - turning her "Help! Mom!" book into a full-blown series.
Pending titles include: "Help! Mom! Hollywood Is in My Hamper!," "Help! Mom! There Are Lawyers in My Lunchbox!" and "Help! Mom! The Ninth Circuit Nabbed the Nativity!"


Read this piece of worm ridden filth's response to a student's letter, but relish the trouble they got themselves into.

Prof urges fragging of U.S. officers'Real freedom will come when American soldiers murder superiors'
Posted: November 18, 20051:00 a.m. Eastern
© 2000>© 2005

When Rebecca Beach, a freshman at Warren Community College in New Jersey e-mailed faculty announcing a campus program yesterday featuring decorated Iraq war hero Lt. Col. Scott Rutter, the response she got from one English professor took her aback.
English professor John Daly replied: "Real freedom will come when soldiers in Iraq turn their guns on their superiors."
Daly added that he would ask his students to boycott the event and also vowed "to expose [her] right-wing, anti-people politics until groups like [Rebecca’s] won’t dare show their face on a college campus."
Besides organizing the event, Beach's offense was hanging up fliers contrasting the number of people killed under communism to those liberated under the late President Ronald Reagan, according to Young America's Foundation, which came to Beach's aid.
In response to the written tirade, Beach is demanding that Warren Community College President William Austin institute seminars on free speech and sensitivity to teach intolerant faculty members to be respectful of differing opinion.
The college has posted a statement on its website repudiating Prof. Daly's comments.
The viewpoints of this professor in no way depict the views of Warren County Community College, its administration, or the Board of Trustees. The College does however support the constitution, the first amendment, and the right to free speech.
Additionally, Mr. Daly's message was sent as a one-to-one message, via e-mail, to one person, and not to the college community. Finally, the College is viewing this message as a personnel issue and will be addressing it according to the policies and procedures of the College.
Daly's e-mail also claimed that "capitalism has killed many more" people than communism and that "poor and working class people" are recruited to "fight and die for EXXON and other corporations."
"John Daly was hired to teach English, not to verbally attack students and lead leftist protests," said Jason Mattera, spokesman for Young America’s Foundation.


In God We Argue
By Cliff Albert

Michael Newdow, the atheist from Northern California, is like a gnat at a picnic that just won't go away.
The guy who tried and failed to get "under God" removed from the Pledge of Allegiance…is back.
Newdow is filing a federal lawsuit asking for the removal of the national motto, "In God We Trust," from U.S. coins and dollar bills. Yep. You knew it had to come sooner or later.
The guy claims "In God We Trust" is an unconstitutional endorsement of religion and "excludes people who don't believe in God."
What is with this guy?
Now, Newdow says he's not trying to push his religion, atheism that is. He says he's just trying to make sure the government is following the Constitution.
And he pooh-poohed arguments that references to God in government honor the country's religious roots.As Newdow puts it…"It's not the history that counts. It's not the patriotism. These people want to get their religious views in our government," he said. Well…first of all… "these people" are virtually everyone else. And…as for denying this country's religious roots…when the founding fathers themselves wrote God into our founding documents, this guy just doesn't get it.Mr. Newdow, maybe you want to pick up a history book and look up these words of Thomas Jefferson:"Can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are the gift of God?"That's right, Thomas Jefferson said that.Newdow is so off base and so wrong…even other atheists are calling talk shows saying he gives them a bad name.Look Newdow. Find something else to do. And if you're so offended by the words "In God We Trust" on your money…then get a credit card…and while you're at it…get a life.
For more Cliff Notes, click here.

Thursday, November 17, 2005

Group for Voluntary Human Extenction? WTF Moment II for Today


Group wants to see humans extinct

SAN FRANCISCO, Nov. 16 (UPI) -- Make no mistake about it, the Voluntary Human Extinction Movement isn't anti-child, it's more like anti-human.

Didn't this group used to be known as Jim Jones and The Peoples Temple? Are their kids and the survivors trying a second time? Holy Shiite, what a bunch of nutcases.....

The VHE is dedicated to phasing out the human race in the interest of the health of the Earth, founder Les Knight told Wednesday's San Francisco Chronicle.

Well, Les, if you wanna make the earth better, VHE yourself all you want. Just don't make anyone else take the route of the dodo bird, OK? Let's see, a dozen people kill themselves, and that saves the same amount of oxygen and flatulence as say a herd of cows. Well, at least the cows are edible and less irritating. Les, been nice knowing you, loser.

With 16,000 people born per hour and a current global population of 6.5 billion, there are already more than enough people on the planet, Knight said.

And Les, you wanna kill some of em, bud? Come on Les, what's so precious that you put the value of the dirt and animals over humans who care for the earth and animals and live here? Bet this goon went to UC Berkley.

A 1994 study concluded a single person born in the 1990s would be responsible during a lifetime for 22 million pounds of liquid waste and 2.2 million pounds each of solid waste and atmospheric waste, the newspaper said. He or she will have a lifetime consumption of 4,000 barrels of oil, 1.5 million pounds of minerals and 62,000 pounds of animal products that will necessitate the slaughter of 2,000 animals.

And that's just one American. You forgot the rich ones who use more. And the fat people. And the chronically ill. Hey, Les, the liquid waste biodegrades and forms fertilizer for the ground in time. Animals biodegrade. Oil, not so easy, but it's recycled. Apparently, Chicken Little forgot that fact that some things replace themselves. People also, but not as quick as a cow, plant, or other mother nature object.

"Wherever humans live, not much else lives," Knight said. "It isn't that we're evil and want to kill everything -- it's just how we live."

WTF? Oh OK, someone drank the Kool Aid way too much.

Knight, who had a vasectomy at age 25, emphasizes VHE likes kids and says many of its members are parents as well as children.

And we thank God he removed his swimmers from the gene pool. A few less liberal nutjobs in the future. Wes, take yourself out of the equation, you fatalist.

Kindergarten Drug Dealer?

Another example of how America is going into the toilet......


PHILADELPHIA -- A kindergarten teacher found eight bags of heroin in a 5-year-old student's pocket, police said.

Now cops, lets hold your horses, it could just be powdered sugar, or white powdered glue. (dogs sniff and go nuts) Well, crap it's smack alright. Against the wall, Junior!

The matter was under investigation and the boy's mother could be charged, police Inspector William Colarulo said.

About danged time. Bet this was an ongoing problem.

The heroin was discovered Oct. 25. On Tuesday, the school sent a letter home to parents. The letter did not explain why the school waited three weeks to tell parents. It was sent home after a story about the incident aired on WCAU-TV.

Three weeks? Three weeks? Were they working a stake out? Calling a judge to get a tap or the DEA in? Sheesh, morons. Gutless school district, what a shock.

Neither the child nor his classmates at Richmond Elementary School were harmed, a schools spokesman said.

Thank God for small favors.

"We are shocked and saddened, outraged" that a parent or parents could place a child in such danger, said spokesman Fernando Galliard.

I'd hope so, Fernando. Otherwise, if there was some complacency or even apathy, it's a sign that the whole education system is screwed, maybe as bad as some of the irresponsible parents.

The boy and his three siblings have been turned over to the city's Department of Human Services and placed in temporary custody, spokesman Ted Qualli said. The agency was looking for relatives who could eventually take care of the children.

At least these kids are away from being used as drug mules, for now.

Bill Clinton: Too few Americans Want to Get to Heaven

WTF? OK, too few of us want to just die and give up? Huh?


IN SEARCH OF A LEGACYClinton: Americans 'reluctant to get to heaven'Says living wills 'will help to deal with the health-care crisis'
Posted: November 17, 20051:00 a.m. Eastern
By Joe Kovacs
© 2000>© 2005

Bill Clinton called 'Most Influential Man in the World' in current Esquire
In making a point about the importance of having a living will, ex-President Bill Clinton remarked that religious Americans are apparently hypocrites for having a fear of death.
"It's interesting to me that we always proclaim – especially certain numbers of us – that we're the most religious big country in the world," said Clinton. "It may be true, but we also seem to be the most reluctant to get to heaven."

Reluctant to get to heaven? What does that mean? That we should embrace death and be fatalistic and don't bother to fight for our lives during illness or crisis? And you're not a hypocrite lecturing us on religion, when you lied, you committed adultery, and may have done worse. Cast the first stone? OK, can we chuck one at your fat head?

No one's reluctant to go meet God. The only one who seems reluctant is you, since you have much to answer for. You have triple bypass, so aren't you a hypocrite for wanting to live longer, by your standard?

Can't believe Americans were snowed into voting for this idiot. Rhodes Scholar my arse.

The remark came at a speech this month before an audience of 5,000 at the University of Minnesota in Minneapolis, and was greeted by laughter and applause.

From the liberal clapping seals of Senator Mark Dayton's state and from Paul Wellstone, not a shocker. And it's a University, so you know the libs were out in full force.

"Look, I only halfway mean that in the sense that I think that everyone has a moral obligation to live as long and as well as he or she can," Clinton continued. "But I do think the living will will help to deal with the health-care crisis."

Living will? Why not a regular will? Why not just your final wishes? OK, I see where this is going, right to die, or right to end life.....

The impeached president mentioned the case of Terri Schiavo, the brain-injured Florida woman who was starved to death by court order after a long legal battle between her parents and her husband, Michael.

And here's where his true culture of death laser shines in a right to left glow. So, Mr. Clinton, you think some should live long lives, but not Terri Schiavo Schindler before she went? Is starving a cripple to death, part of the new America you wanted to create? Shall we revert back to state enforced euthanasia?

"We spend far more money on the last two months of life than any other country," Clinton noted. "And I think the only answer to that and maybe the good thing that came out of the terrible agony of the Schiavo family that we were all treated to for weeks is that amazing numbers of Americans including Hillary and me ... did living wills. We'd been wanting to do it a long time. We just kept puttin' it off and puttin' it off, and I saw that [tragedy] unfold and I said 'You know, I don't want to see Chelsea on television like that. Let's do the living will.'"

Well, Bill, a living will is good and fine, but didn't Terri have some sort of will or last wishes? Apparently those like other documents were sealed by Judge Greer, Michael Schiavo's judicial benefactor. Last two months of life? Wow, so when the projected time of life is down to it's last two months, should we cut the juice and pull the tubes? Didn't the Nazis do that same thing as a dry run to the Holocaust?

Bill, and Hil, better hope they have a living will for themselves. Let's hope Chelsea continues her progression as an adult, and does not end up like Michael Schiavo. Otherwise, Bill may be eating his words. Be careful what you wish for Mr. President.

Clinton, who has just been named the "Most Influential Man in the World" by Esquire magazine, reiterated a common theme of his – that the U.S. will not always be the leader of the world.

One magazine title, and Bill is almost declared second to God by the liberals. Oh wait, they have to believe in God, first. Not enough room in the ego-driven world for any higher power for these predators....

"My view is that we won't be the supreme political, military and economic power in the world forever. We will always be a great nation if we do the right things. But as soon as China and India are as rich as we are then whether we've got the only military superpower is their decision and not ours. ...
"We should be trying to build a world at this unique moment in history we would like to live in when we're not the only big dog on the block."

Well, Bill, we can thank China's technical expertise and nuclear weapons to you. Were the campaign donations and hush money worth weakening America? Did you really want the US as a province in the One World Government that bad? Enjoy your 30 pieces of silver, Judas. You and Dr. Wen Ho Lee.

In the Esquire piece, magazine editor David Granger says Clinton is now poised to become "something like a president of the world or at least a president of the world's non-governmental organizations."

And so the Anti Christ begins his ascent (theme from Omen plays). Just kidding.

Clinton is more like a flunky. Can we please deflate the ego on this Hindenburg, please?

Audio of Bill Clinton's speech at the University of Minnesota is available here.

Wednesday, November 16, 2005

Great Movie Quote

OK, this is from A FEW GOOD MEN, which is a good movie. Drawbacks, Rob Reiner is a flaming lib and Clinton lover, but decent director when he was apolitical, here. Drawback, Jack Nicholson once praised Castro, years ago.

However, Jack, great actor that he is, made a great quote. The film made this man arrogant, but I imagine other soldiers share his sentiments.....

"Son, we live in a world that has walls and those walls need to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lieutenant Weinberg? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago and curse the Marines; you have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that Santiago's death, while tragic, probably saved lives and that my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives.
You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use then as the backbone of a life trying to defend something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you," and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest that you pick up a weapon and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to.

Cheney Fires Back at War Defeatists, Accusers

Well, you knew Cheney was gonna come out swinging.....

And yep, he's pissed.


CHENEY FIGHTS BACKWed Nov 16 2005 18:56:46 ETExcerpts As Prepared For Delivery Tonight by Vice President Cheney

THE VICE PRESIDENT: "As most of you know, I have spent a lot of years in public service, and first came to work in Washington, D.C. back in the late 1960s. I know what it’s like to operate in a highly charged political environment, in which the players on all sides of an issue feel passionately and speak forcefully.

To Cheney's credit, he did tell Patrick Leahy to go "f-ck himself." Not the best use of the King's English, but no less satisfying to Leahy and his Brigade of Cheap Shot Snipers.....

In such an environment people sometimes lose their cool, and yet in Washington you can ordinarily rely on some basic measure of truthfulness and good faith in the conduct of political debate. But in the last several weeks we have seen a wild departure from that tradition.

Calling the President a liar, morally bankrupt, impeachable, etc......

And the suggestion that’s been made by some U. S. senators that the President of the United States or any member of this Administration purposely misled the American people on pre-war intelligence is one of the most dishonest and reprehensible charges ever aired in this city...

Senators Kennedy, Kerry, Levin, Biden, Leahy, Boxer, Feinstein, Durbin, former Senator Edwards, Former VP and Senator Al Gore. Congresswomen Pelosi and Waters, Congressmen Kucinich, McDermott, and many many more. Talk about a stray from decorum and normal behavior. Oh wait, their behavior is normal for liberals.....

Some of the most irresponsible comments have, of course, come from politicians who actually voted in favor of authorizing force against Saddam Hussein. These are elected officials who had access to the intelligence, and were free to draw their own conclusions.

See the previous post on Democrats statements on Iraq and WMDs pre-2003. Link:

They arrived at the same judgment about Iraq’s capabilities and intentions that was made by this Administration and by the previous Administration. There was broad-based, bipartisan agreement that Saddam Hussein was a threat … that he had violated U.N. Security Council Resolutions … and that, in a post-9/11 world, we couldn’t afford to take the word of a dictator who had a history of WMD programs, who had excluded weapons inspectors, who had defied the demands of the international community, who had been designated an official state sponsor of terror, and who had committed mass murder.

See above link, and others. Also, ask the British Intel Inquiry under Lord Butler if Prime Minister Blair lied and manipulated intel. Was Egypt and Jordan wrong when warning US CentComm and General Tommy Franks on WMDs and their being taken from Iraq? Was Australia making it up and their own intel? How about Israel, and others who expressed worries before this war and the 1991 Gulf War? How about he UN's twelve Resolutions and inspectors noting deception and hiding? Was everyone wrong except Howard Dean and the new revisionists?

Those are facts.

What we’re hearing now is some politicians contradicting their own statements and making a play for political advantage in the middle of a war. The saddest part is that our people in uniform have been subjected to these cynical and pernicious falsehoods day in and day out. American soldiers and Marines are out there every day in dangerous conditions and desert temperatures – conducting raids, training Iraqi forces, countering attacks, seizing weapons, and capturing killers – and back home a few opportunists are suggesting they were sent into battle for a lie.

Opportunists, like the Senators who flip flopped in time for the elections, which they lost and will continue to lose. Opportunists, like Cindy Sheehan, who is leeching her dead son's memories to satisfy her personal hatred and craving for attention. Sheehan's gonna write a book, just you wait. Opportunists, like Michael Moore and his Fahrenhype 9/11 drivel, and sneaking behind tombstones to videotape our troops funerals, edit footage to make our troops out as thugs, and made our President out as evil. All of these parasites should be ashamed, if they were even human......

The President and I cannot prevent certain politicians from losing their memory, or their backbone – but we’re not going to sit by and let them rewrite history.

Owwwww! That's gotta hurt! You guys seem awfully craven and ready to cut and run, since it's a Republican in office. No one fled Kosovo when Hillbilly Clinton was in office. No one fled Europe when Truman and FDR were in office. No one fled Korea, despite Truman's whooping 22% Approval Rating in 1952. Why now? And as far as re-writing history goes, they're trying to do it, but they're gonna fail. The libs tried to rewrite WWII and Vietnam, and are now exposed for the frauds that they are. Kitty Kelly looks more impartial than these new hacks.....

We’re going to continue throwing their own words back at them. And far more important, we’re going to continue sending a consistent message to the men and women who are fighting the war on terror in Iraq, Afghanistan, and many other fronts.

Other fronts, like the war on terror stateside, by securing our land. The war on terror, outside of the immediate military combat areas, through espionage and interrogations. The war against evil, by pressuring countries to drop WMDs. That war has worked against Libya and Syria without firing a shot. Let's pray we can do it with North Korea, Iran, Cuba, and others. Otherwise, we get to finish business there also.

We can never say enough how much we appreciate them, and how proud they make us. They and their families can be certain: That this cause is right … and the performance of our military has been brave and honorable … and this nation will stand behind our fighting forces with pride and without wavering until the day of victory.

Well said, Mr. Vice President, well said. With pride, not the shame that San Francisco has in their recruiter ban. Not the shame that some mayors have in promoting protest days. Not the shame Sheehan has for her own son's belief in the war, he fought 3 voluntary tours of duty for.

In Case You Forgot, The Democrats did Support the War in Iraq, some called for it.

Well, just so you revisionists don't get too self-assured, read it and weap, your guys wanted Saddam out before Bush was in office.


What Did The Democrats Say About Iraq's WMD
JANUARY 30, 2004 Document Location:

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..." - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003 Source

Flip Flop of the Viet Cong said this? Wow! I bet he got over his war wounds and finally manned up! Tennis elbow takes so long to forget. And now, Kerry is saying the US was misled into the war. You voted for it and backed it, John.....

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002 Source

More from Horseface. Nay! Nay! Nay! Good Democratic horse... or jackass or whatever.....

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." - President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998 Source

Now Bill, did you say this before or after Zippergate? Oh, before. Maybe, depending on that pesky Impeachment that you brought on yourself.

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." - President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998 Source

Clinton did use force. He fired some missiles and bombs. Called it Operation: Desert Fox. Rommel must be spinning in his grave over that 5 minutes of fireworks over Baghdad....

"We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction." - Madeline Albright, Feb 1, 1998 Source

This from the lady who said Iraq had no weapons in 2004 and said 9/11 was an excuse for war. Did you ever see those dead Kurds, Madeline?

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." - Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998 Source

Sandy was caugh putting documents down his Underoos when he said this.....

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."Letter to President Clinton. - (D) Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, others, Oct. 9, 1998 Source

All of these losers voted for the war. One is out of office for good. Two more to go....

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." - Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998 Source

Wow! Miss Bush Lied Troops Died said this! Hmmm, oh and there's a link or two also. Nancy, also doing the Democratic Flip Flop. Wonder if she was in on the Oil For Food BS? George Galloway could not be reached for comment....

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies." - Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999 Source

Madeline Halfbright should have remembered this before blasting into a conspiracy theory, in 2004, that would have made Oliver Stone proud.....

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them." - Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002 Source

This from the same Senator Levin asking for a pull out, and claiming the US went due to fiction. Or was that Michael Moore? Libs are so pedantic and parrot-like it's easy to confuse a Levin with a Schumer.

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 Source

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 Source

HE BETRAYED THIS COUNTRY! HE LIED! HE BETRAYED OUR TRUST! Yeah we remember your rant, Fatso. We also now have your quotes and thoughts on Saddam and being for military action in Iraq. And this doesn't need umpteen recounts, like your suspicious Florida voting fraud allegations in 2000. You couldn't get over 2000, and everyone forgot that. You are now ripping Bush for winning in 2004. However, let's not forget your contradictions on Iraq. What would your solution have been had you been President?

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002 Source

This from Mr. Quagmire, Giggidy giggidy giggidy goo. Capin Chappy is now claiming lies and deceit. What's a matter Ted? Did we wake you from a hangover too soon? Ted, you seem awfully high and mighty about our troops being high and dry, considering you left Mary Jo low, wet, and alone in Chappaquidduck.....

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..." - Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002 Source

The Senator who wailed about the war in Iraq being a sad day for America, and us turning our backs on the world. Yeah, Byrd, we just ignored the fact that Iraq was given 12 Resolutions, 12 Warnings from the UN and backed by the US and Iraq turned their noses at them. Mr. KKK, we're also aware of your votes for force after 9/11, but supposedly not here for your moral clarity. Sure, Sheets, lets take your word for it.....

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002 Source

Senator Byrd's buddy, also a parrot of the DNC talking points in 2003 onward, but then was singing a different tune. Wow, was intel wrong then, when you believed them?

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." - Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002 Source"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002 Source

And so on and so on, and so on......

Democrats, what a bunch of two faces.

Tick Tock, Tick Tock, We Can Wait, Fidel Can't

Just when you thought Uncle Fidel was a stout and energetic tyrant of death and mass murder, it is now discovered Fidel Castro has Parkinson's Disease. Didn't Hitler have Parkinson's before he took a 30 caliber aspirin to the head? We can hope Fidel will do the same, or maybe get mutliple injections from a firing squad.

Since Fidel has limited time, it may come back to the time when Cuban cigars will be available again.

......looking at watch...... today, Fidel, today.


CIA: Fidel Castro Has Parkinson's

The CIA recently concluded that Cuban leader Fidel Castro suffers from Parkinson's disease and has warned U.S. policymakers to be ready for trouble if the 79-year-old ruler's health erodes over the next few years.
If true, the CIA's assessment of the nonfatal but debilitating condition would mean Castro may be entering a period where doctors say the symptoms grow more evident, medicines are less effective and mental functions start to deteriorate.
Although Castro's brother Raul, head of the armed forces, has been anointed as his successor, Cuba analysts fear the possibility of a tumultuous period during which an incapacitated Castro refuses to give up power but can no longer project his overpowering personality to Cuba's 11 million people.
"For Fidel to start shaking in a real and substantial way - in public - sends quite a powerful message to people around the world," said Frank O. Mora, a professor of national security strategy at The National War College.
Rumors that Castro suffers from Parkinson's have been around since the mid-1990s. In 1998, he even jokingly challenged journalists to a pistol duel at 25 paces to show the steadiness of his hands.
But the Central Intelligence Agency began briefing senior members of the State Department and lawmakers about one year ago that its doctors had become convinced that Castro was diagnosed with the disease around 1998, said two longtime government officials familiar with the briefings. Both asked for anonymity because leaking the contents of the classified briefing could violate U.S. laws.
"About one year ago, we started seeing some pretty definitive stuff that he had Parkinson's," said one of them.
There has been no independent confirmation of Castro's illness, or any indication of how the CIA came to its conclusion. The State Department and the CIA declined to comment for this story.
But one State Department official said there is already evidence that Castro's abilities are fading noticeably. He is increasingly slurring his words and going off on tangents in public speeches, although he seems to have good days and bad days. Clearly, "he is not the same person he was five years ago," added the official.
Others insist that Castro is fine, however. "He enjoys excellent health," Ricardo Alarcon, president of Cuba's National Assembly, said last month after he was asked about Castro's failure to attend the Ibero-American summit in Spain.
Parkinson's symptoms include tremors, stiffness, difficulty with balance and muffled speech, although its exact manifestations vary according to the victim. High-profile individuals stricken with the disease include the late Pope John Paul II, former U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno, actor Michael J. Fox and boxer Muhammad Ali.
Dr. Carlos Singer, a Parkinson's expert at the University of Miami, said the disease on average cuts short the lifespan of a patient only by one or two years. "The issue is not as much how long they can live, it is how much do they suffer in the process," he said.
The first five to eight years usually are "manageable with relatively small doses of medication," Singer said. After that, symptoms such as stooped postures and difficulties with balance become more evident. And in the advanced stages, about 40 percent of patients develop what one specialist on the disease called "basically an overall decline in cognitive functions."
The main drug to ease the symptoms of the disease is levodopa, which replenishes the brain with the dopamine chemical that is deficient in Parkinson's. Patients can program their activities around the periods when the drug is taking effect, known to doctors as "on periods." But over time, the drug loses its effectiveness.
"As the disease slowly progresses, the medications have to be taken more frequently, at higher doses," said Paul Larson, a neurosurgeon and Parkinson's specialist at the University of California, San Francisco. "But you eventually reach a point where the patient is fluctuating between an `on period' and an `off period' so frequently that you can't, in essence, keep up with just medications."
Possible side effects of levodopa are involuntary movements and facial grimaces, as well as visual hallucinations. As both Parkinson's and the drug can cause blood pressure to drop, patients can sometimes faint, Singer said.
Castro has displayed some signs of ill health in recent years, though perhaps no worse than other 79-year-olds.
Castro fainted during a speech in a Havana suburb in 2001 and was seen almost collapsing during the inauguration of Argentine President Nestor Kirchner in 2003. A public tumble last year left him with a fractured knee and arm, and former Ecuador President Lucio Gutierrez wrote in his recent book that he had to prop up a nodding-off Castro several times while sitting next to him at an international event.
Cuba watchers also noted Castro was not shown touring the areas of Havana hit by Hurricane Wilma, something out of character for a man who has personally managed every crisis in Cuba since taking power in early 1959, from the 1961 Bay of Pigs invasion to the Elian Gonzalez affair in 2000.
For U.S. policymakers, the report that Castro may suffer from Parkinson's has sparked concerns about Cuba's political stability down the road.
"It's going to be harder for Fidel to go out and perform, and he's been performing the guerrilla theater for 50 years," said Brian Latell, a retired CIA analyst on Cuba. Latell is the author of "After Fidel," a new book about Castro and his brother Raul, the world's longest-serving defense minister and the sole designated successor of Castro.
Damian Fernandez, director of Florida International University's Cuban Research Institute, said the larger questions are how Castro's subordinates would react to his mental or physical erosion, and how that could affect Raul's role as Cuba's No. 2.
"I envision Raul trying to forge key alliances with subordinates in the military and among civilians to rule very tightly," he said. "But I don't know how this could sustain itself without delivering benefits" to the Cuban people.
That's assuming that Raul, 74, does not die before his brother. That would leave Fidel without a clear successor and the powerful military, now controlled by the younger brother, without a widely recognized or respected leader.
The result might be political turmoil as senior government officials jockey for power with a Fidel Castro too infirm to make vital decisions.
"The revolution could be hanging by a thread," Latell said.
But that may be some time away. During his recent TV interview with Argentine soccer star Diego Maradona, Castro said that rumors of his health were so frequent that "the day that I die, nobody is going to believe it."

Uh-Oh, Saddam DID HAVE WMDs.


New Documents Reveal Saddam Hid WMD, Was Tied to Al Qaida

Recently discovered Iraqi documents now being translated by U.S. intelligence analysts indicate that Saddam Hussein's government made extensive plans to hide Iraq's weapons of mass destruction before the U.S. invasion in March 2003 - and had deep ties to al Qaida before the 9/11 attacks.
The explosive evidence was discovered among "millions of pages of documents" unearthed by the Iraq Survey Group weapons search team, reports the Weekly Standard's Stephen Hayes.
In the magazine's Nov. 21 issue, Hayes reveals that the document cache now being examined contains "a thick stew of reports and findings from a variety of [Iraqi] intelligence agencies and military units."
Though the Pentagon has so far declined to make the bombshell papers public, Hayes managed to obtain a list of titles on the reports.
Topics headlined in the still embargoed Iraqi documents include:
• Chemical Agent Purchase Orders (Dec. 2001)
• Formulas and information about Iraq's Chemical Weapons Agents
• Locations of Weapons/Ammunition Storage (with map)
• Denial and Deception of WMD and Killing of POWs
• Ricin research and improvement
• Chemical Gear for Fedayeen Saddam
• Memo from the [Iraqi Intelligence Service] to Hide Information from a U.N. Inspection team (1997)
• Iraq Ministry of Defense Calls for Investigation into why documents related to WMD were found by UN inspection team
• Correspondence between various Iraq organizations giving instructions to hide chemicals and equipment
• Correspondence from [Iraqi Intelligence Service] to [the Military Industrial Commission] regarding information gathered by foreign intelligence satellites on WMD (Dec. 2002) • Cleaning chemical suits and how to hide chemicals
• [Iraqi Intelligence Service] plan of what to do during UNSCOM inspections (1996)
Still other reports suggest that Iraq's ties to al Qaida were far deeper than previously known, featuring headlines like:
• Secret Meeting with Taliban Group Member and Iraqi Government (Nov. 2000)
• Document from Uday Hussein regarding Taliban activity
• Possible al Qaeda Terror Members in Iraq
• Iraqi Effort to Cooperate with Saudi Opposition Groups and Individuals
• Iraqi Intel report on Kurdish Activities: Mention of Kurdish Report on al Qaeda - reference to al Qaeda presence in Salman Pak
• [Iraqi Intelligence Service] report on Taliban-Iraq Connections Claims
• Money Transfers from Iraq to Afghanistan
While the document titles sound stunning enough to turn the Iraq war debate on its head, Hayes cautions that it's hard to know for certain until the full text is available.
It's possible, he writes, "that the 'Document from Uday Hussein regarding Taliban activity' was critical of one or another Taliban policies. But it's equally possible, given Uday's known role as a go-between for the Iraqi regime and al Qaeda, that something more nefarious was afoot."
"What was discussed at the 'Secret Meeting with Taliban Group Member and Iraqi Government' in November 2000? It could be something innocuous. Maybe not. But it would be nice to know more."
Hayes also notes that an additional treasure trove of evidence on Saddam Hussein's support for al Qaida may be lost forever.
"When David Kay ran the Iraq Survey Group searching for weapons of mass destruction, he instructed his team to ignore anything not directly related to the regime's WMD efforts," he reports.
"As a consequence, documents describing the regime's training and financing of terrorists were labeled 'No Intelligence Value' and often discarded, according to two sources."

US has detained over 83,000 Terrorists


U.S. Has Detained 83,000 in War on TerrorNov 16 2:56 PM US/Eastern Email this story

Associated Press Writer

The United States has detained more than 83,000 foreigners in the four years of the war on terror, enough to nearly fill the NFL's largest stadium. The administration defends the practice of holding detainees in prisons from Afghanistan to Guantanamo Bay as a critical tool to stop the insurgency in Iraq, maintain stability in Afghanistan and get known and suspected terrorists off the streets.

It seems to have worked in Afghanistan, to a good degree. Hamid Karzai has been free from more assassination attempts since detaining some of the Taliban and foreign fighters. Oddly enough, there have been fewer attacks here. Wait, how about none since September 11, 2001.

Iraq is a mess, though. The terrorists there ought not be detained, just straight up killed. They seem to be like moths attracted to a light. Well, too bad they're heading straight for the bug zapper known as the US and Allied Troops.

And if we wanna house em, somewhere, why not the Superdome in its present condition? Uncleared refuse and all.....

Roughly 14,500 detainees remain in U.S. custody, primarily in Iraq.

And how many of them have killed American and Iraqi peace officers and civilians? The Middle East believes in the death penalty. Use it then. These guys aren't there for purse snatching and cashing hot checks.

The number has steadily grown since the first CIA paramilitary officers touched down in Afghanistan in the fall of 2001, setting up more than 20 facilities including the "Salt Pit," an abandoned factory outside Kabul used for CIA detention and interrogation.

And if the interrogations are getting terrorists off the streets and preventing death and destruction, who is opposed? Aside from the Euroweenies and their mooselimb handlers? And the liberals and turncoats here? Would the terrorist victims oppose a little rough housing to save more lives? I think not.

In Iraq, the number in military custody hit a peak on Nov. 1, according to military figures. Nearly 13,900 suspects were in U.S. custody there that day _ partly because U.S. offensives in western Iraq put pressure on insurgents before the October constitutional referendum and December parliamentary elections.

Yes, oddly enough the voters aren't getting killed and democracy can flow forth, in this drought ridden land in the Middle East.

The detentions and interrogations have brought complaints from Congress and human-rights groups about how the detainees _ often Arab and male _ are treated.

And not a peep when Nick Berg, Paul Johnson, Margaret Hassan, and others were beheaded and tortured on Al Jazeera. Congress? Wow, I think we know who's complaining. Ted Kennedy (committed water torture at Chappaquiduck- Mary Jo Kopechne could not be reached for comment), Dick Durbin (compares our troops to SS Deaths Head camp guards. The liberated of Iraq could not be reached, they were busy starting new lives....), and Nancy Pelosi (her voice is just torture, period). Arab males. Wow, you noticed that most terrorists are guys? Hmmm, could it be since the fundamentalist mooselimbs view women as cows and incapable of much aside from children, sex, and housekeeping? And the US is called backward....whatever.

International law and treaty obligations forbid torture and inhumane treatment. Classified memos have given the government ways to extract intelligence from detainees "consistent with the law," administration officials often say.

The same international laws that forbade Genocide, but Hitler and Saddam still broke those paper tiger laws. Laws do no good without enforcement. And the treaties ought to be refreshed. Is it not cruel and unusual to kill unarmed civilians by gassing them, Saddam? Is it not cruel and unusual to crash a plane into the Towers and result in people jumping to their deaths? How soon these whitewashed tombs of diplomats forget real victims.

On Capitol Hill, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., is leading a campaign to ban cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment of prisoners in U.S. custody. The administration says the legislation could tie the president's hands. Vice President Dick Cheney has pressed lawmakers to exempt the CIA.
"There's an enemy that lurks and plots and plans and wants to hurt America again. And so you bet we will aggressively pursue them. But we will do so under the law," President Bush said last week.

OK George, and what if the enemy does not play by the rules? Shall we fight, one hand tied behind our backs and the other covering our balls? Cut their hands and let em fight. Unless we want another 9/11 or worse.

Some 82,400 people have been detained by the military alone in Afghanistan and Iraq, according to figures from officials in Baghdad and Washington. Many are freed shortly after initial questioning.

And the worst are still detained. Hopefully never to go free.

To put that in context, the capacity of the Washington Redskins' FedEx Field, the NFL's largest, is 91,704. The second largest, Giants Stadium, holds 80,242.
An additional 700 detainees were sent to Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. Just under 500 remain there now.
In Iraq, the Defense Department says 5,569 detainees have been held for more than six months, and 3,801 have been held more than a year. Some 229 have been locked up for more than two years.

And we have a problem, why?

Many have been questioned by military officials trained at the main U.S. interrogation school, Fort Huachuca in Arizona. Pentagon officials say those mistreated are relatively few when the sheer numbers are considered.

And we know how many were mistreated by the Taliban and Saddam's einsatzgruppen. Hundreds of thousands, not counting the dead.....

Yet human rights groups say they don't know the extent of the abuse. "And there is no way anyone could, even if the military was twice as conscientious. It is unknowable, unless you assume that every act of abuse is immediately reported up the chain of command," said Tom Malinowski, Washington director for Human Rights Watch.

And Tom will try and get every act documented. He'll forget the fact these terrorists try and kill guards on a daily basis, and have slaughtered dozens if not thousands in their lifetimes. Yes, let's let the mad dogs with rabies go play, shall we?

As of March, 108 detainees were known to have died in U.S. military and CIA custody, including 22 who died when insurgents attacked Abu Ghraib and others who died of natural causes. At least 26 deaths have been investigated as criminal homicides.

Well, that's 108 less of the bastards to deal with. Prefer they eat up your tax money with their accommodations? Prefer we let them loose and send em to your house or apartment? What would you prefer?

Last week, Senate Armed Services Chairman John Warner, R-Va., said that more than 400 criminal investigations have been conducted and 95 military personnel have been charged with misconduct. Seventy-five have been convicted.

And the indictments were doubt the result of liberals and their own inquisitions. Such victims included Lt. Col. Allen West, US 4 ID, saved troops from IEDs by getting terrorist to confess on locations of bombs (shot pistol near gonads of said terrorist). West was threatened with court martial and life in prison, but acquitted. Lt. Ilario Pantano, USMC, shot and killed 2 terrorists perceived as a threat to his platoon. Pantano faced the death penalty courtesy of liberals in the JAG Courts, but was also acquitted. How many more of our guardians must face a kangaroo court, rather than face and defeat our enemies?

Through the CIA, a much smaller prison population is maintained secretly by the agency and friendly governments. A network of known or suspected facilities _ some of which have been closed _ have been located in places including Thailand, Central Asia and Eastern Europe.
The governments of Thailand and a number of Eastern Europe countries have denied the CIA operated prisons within their borders. The agency consistently declines to comment.

And what country would want to admit they have terrorists housed on their soil, besides their own? And what country would want to stop interrogations that may save their countrymen, and not just Americans?

About 100 to 150 people are believed to have been grabbed by CIA officers and sent to their home countries or to other nations where they were wanted for prosecution, a procedure called "rendition." Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Egypt are known to cooperate.

And by the war, Saudi, Jordanian, and Egyptian interrogation methods are roughter than ours. If you've seen Marathon Man or even Battle For Algiers, those were European Gestapo methods. The methods of the native Arabs would have made Heinrich Himmler piss his pants....

The practice has taken on a negative connotation, but that wasn't always the case. In a December 2002 speech touching on intelligence successes, former CIA Director George Tenet said the agency and FBI had "rendered 70 terrorists to justice."

Never heard from again, most of them. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

While officials won't confirm the number, another two to three dozen "high-value" detainees are also believed to be in CIA custody. Among them, Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, an alleged mastermind of the 9/11 attacks.

Alleged? Check the 9/11 Report. He's listed dozens of times, and a key planner and mastermind. Mohammed was apprehended by Pakistani IS and handed to us. Thanks, boys. And oddly enough, more attacks like 9/11 stopped when the brain was cut off. Coincidence?

As House Intelligence chairman in 2004, CIA Director Porter Goss took a strong stand on some of the gray areas of detention practices. In an AP interview, he said, "Gee, you're breaking my heart" in response to complaints that Arab men found it abusive to have women guards at the Guantanamo Bay prison camp.

Bwahahahahahha! You tell em, Goss!

Before Goss took over the agency, its inspector general completed a report on the treatment of detainees, following investigations into at least four prisoner deaths that may have involved CIA personnel. To date, one agency contractor has been charged.

Don't be suprised....

The inspector general's report discussed tactics used by CIA personnel _ called "Enhanced Interrogation Techniques." Former intelligence officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the practices are classified, say some interrogation techniques are well-known: exposing prisoners to cold, depriving them of sleep or forcing them to stand in stressful positions.
Perhaps the most publicly controversial technique is waterboarding, when a detainee is strapped to a board and has water run over him to simulate drowning.

Not the more humane methods of the terrorists that include, but not limited to: Beheadings, hangings, gunshot wounds, burning alive, burning with pokers, cutting, dogs, tying grenades to your neck, etc...... And of course, the quickest method, hijack a flight, slam it into a skyscraper and kill everyone on the plane, instantly. Now the folks in the buildings, they're SOL of course.

Before we hear more about how bad the US and our allies are treating, let's ask the victims of terror what they think of punishment and interment.

Children of Beslan, Russia? No comment, most were killed.
Bali tourists and natives? No comment, hundreds killed.
September 11? No comment, from the nearly 3,000 killed.
Kurdistan? No comment from the 250K or more murdered.

Earth, cover not their blood.- Job.