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Wednesday, July 27, 2005

I swear to tell the truth, whole truth and nothing but....

"I swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help me Allah." may be the new phrase North Carolina Courts may have to issue if the ACLU wins its proposed suit against North Carolina for swearing in witnesses and other court participants in with a Bible, which has been done since 1789.

LINK: http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/7/27/101320.shtml

Ridiculous if you ask me. Since America is 80% Christian, or says it is, why not humor us? If you know Allah and he knows you, why raise a stink on which book you are sworn in with? Well, the ACLU is glad to answer that and are stripping us of our identity again.

State law allows witnesses preparing to testify in court to take their oath either by laying a hand over a "Holy Scripture," by saying "so help me God" without the use of a religious book, or by using no religious symbols.
"We hope that the court will issue a ruling that the phrase 'holy scripture' includes the Quran, Old Testament and Bhagavad-Gita in addition to the Christian Bible," said Jennifer Rudinger, executive director of the ACLU of North Carolina.


North Carolina is gonna fold. I know it. Since the Diversity Freaks want US the Majority to be like everyone else, expect some gutless judge or US Attorney to cave in. The minute the Ten Commandments went, expect Bibles, old symbols and paintings in the courthouse, and even a judge's demeanor to change. And court officers, you better hide or throw away your cross or Star of David. Those are unwelcome in the new world order. Now, the Islamofascists, they are fine, since they are the religion of peace or pieces or whatever......

If this happens in the Deep South, expect the rest of the US to follow suit. Although, there is one comfort. The judges and decisions are for STATE COURTS, not FEDERAL COURTS. So, there may be a glimmer of hope that sanity could prevail.

If not, God Help Us, because Allah may not......

9 Comments:

  • At 12:04 PM, Blogger Kevin said…

    It is in no way the first time this sort of thing has happened -- AND -- I might add, I do not believe that you have to swear on the bible in most states, and certainly not federally.

    Here is a quote of a supreme court justice being sworn in:

    "In taking both oaths, I elected to do so on the Hebrew bible, given to me by my grandfather, a Rabbi (a cleric who, by tradition, often acted as a judge), rather than the Court bible. "

    http://www.supremecourthistory.org/04_library/subs_volumes/04_c18_i.html

    So, I don't really know about this NC thing, but I suspect that the ACLU is trying to get them to catch up with the rest of the US (if they are required to use the bible there)

     
  • At 2:03 PM, Blogger NDwalters said…

    Catch up with the rest of the US, my butt. States are autonomous for good reason, since the ACLU- Ass Crack Lickers' Union is forcing Islam on us. My solution to the whiners: IF you do not like Christianity, go live where it's rare.

     
  • At 6:58 PM, Blogger Kevin said…

    hah -- thankfully it will only be a matter of time before it IS rare.

    But thats just me being a dick =]

    Noone is forcing Islam on you, nor Buddah, nor anyone else. They are simply correcting a law that should have been corrected long ago.

    Forcing someone to do anything over a piece of religion is a clear violation of your civils, theres just no way to argue around that.

    And, as a point I made to you some time back, if the swearing in is to have any meaning, why make a Muslim swear over the bible? It's meaningless to them.

    I mean, do you think that when the President is sworn in to office, he needs to use a bible to take his oath? He doesn't. Why should some regular person in court have to use the bible to take an oath in order to address a courtroom when even the president does not have to in order to address the whole world?

     
  • At 6:03 AM, Blogger NDwalters said…

    People have sworn on it for years. Why the fuss now? Simple, the Ass Crack Lickers Union, phrase from a meaner neocon than I, are trying to ride the Roy Moore wave and the Jeffrey Newdow wave and etcetera ......

     
  • At 4:54 PM, Blogger Kevin said…

    I fully agreed with you on the memorial thing because the crosses are representative of the lives lost. A courthouse also should be representative of it's guests and therefore you should either require ALL religious texts, or none. And since ALL would be arduous and expensive, best not to require one at all.

    Doing something for years doesn't make it right. I am sure you can go down the list of such examples yourself.

    PS: I just thought of something random. Is saying the phrase 'I swear to god', blasphemy to a Christian?

    I know back in the day the Quakers wouldn't say 'swear to God' and instead were allowed to 'affirm under penalty of perjury' - or something to that extent.

     
  • At 5:26 PM, Blogger Mooneyguy said…

    I live in NC and if they ask me to swear on a bible, I'll refuse. What are they going to do? Ha ha

     
  • At 6:48 PM, Blogger Kevin said…

    heh, thats a good question.

    I wonder what the ramifications are of doing so.

    I would imagine they just make you take an affirmation against perjury.

     
  • At 8:51 AM, Blogger NDwalters said…

    I doubt anyone's recently asked, til now. Well, if they don't want a bible get a State Code book, then.

     
  • At 8:56 AM, Blogger Kevin said…

    There ya go. A state book would suffice just fine I think.

     

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