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Friday, October 08, 2004

UN Weapons Report: No WMD BUT No Threat?

OK here it goes. Oddly enough this bomb shell hit the day before Bush debates Kerry a second time. I can hear him saying Bush lied, troops died. Terry McAuliffe, DNC Chairman, called Bush a liar yesterday and more or less implied Bush should be on trial. Well, let's go to the next step and just let Saddam take power and do what he did before.

Here is why Saddam was a threat, regardless of the WMDs

1. Saddam Hussein had waged several wars-

Saddam started a war with Iran in 1980, which went through 1988. Saddam Hussein and The Ayatollah Khomeni were in a battle, of secular Sunnis versus ultra religious Shiites. Saddam deployed chemical tipped missiles into Iran. He fired gas on Iranian troops and that war resulted in over 100,000 dead, just in Iran. In 1988-1989, Saddam Hussein would gas thousands of Kurds. He used nerve gas and other blister agents. Surely these weren't WMDs, either, right? Tell that to the Kurds who lived and are blinded or scarred for life. Saddam also invaded Kuwait in August 1990, in a grab for more oil and power. Saddam would test the resolve of the US Led and heavily US enforced UN Military Coalition. In Spring 1991, Desert Storm was launched, and the 100 hour ground war was in play. Most of this was the war in the air. At the same time, Hussein launched Soviet made SCUD missiles into US/Coalition positions in Saudi Arabia and at Israel. The allies and Israelis did not have gas masks for no good reason. Nor did our troops get issued Chem/Bio Warfare suits for a hoax. Saddam was beaten back, but not fully. We would have to finish where the first war left off and still are.

2. Saddam killed many of his own people-

If you read Con Coughlin's King of Terror- a bio on Saddam Hussein, you will know he killed close to 100,000 to 250,000 of his own Iraqi people. He gassed Kurds of course. However, in his rise to power, he had the entire National Legislature on TV and prodded anyone who opposed him to admit they did so on live TV. Many did, and they were taken out of the assembly room, by armed troops and some civilian guards. Saddam would congratulate those who stayed, and told them they would live. The rest were to be executed and they that remained would be the firing squad. Saddam also killed family. He had murdered cousins. In 1996-1997, two of his sons-in-law defected to Jordan and the US Intelligence to form a plot to kill Saddam and take over. The plot fizzled and both returned, since Saddam promised NOT TO KILL THEM. Both were brutally tortured and executed. Others were blown up with grenades tied to their necks, submerged/melted in acid, beheaded, pulled apart on a wrack, shot, stabbed, disembowled, and some fed to lions and tigers for Saddam's Amusement. Saddam was a main who cared not for his own. Many starved as he would not let the UN "bully" him. Interesting how Sean Penn went to Baghdad to negotiate with Saddam in 2002-2003. That would be like Kirk Douglas (Jewish) meeting with Hitler to persuade him not to gas any Jews, or invade any countries. Saddam was a danger to his own people and others. He had to be stopped, at least, to stop the mass murder and reign of terror he escalated.

3. Invades his neighbors- He invaded Iran, Kuwait and tried to do so with Saudi Arabia. He threatened the sovereignty of other lands. He infact threatened to invade Turkey if they fought in our coalition. Saddam also fired missiles at Israel.

4. Proof of building blocks of WMDs- In the WMD Report, there are no stockpiles of weapons, and no recent work or paper to prove that Saddam was building them. However, there was intent. As far back as 1981, Saddam wanted a nuclear bomb. That same year was when Israel launched an F-15 and F-16 strike to hit the reactor at Otsirak. Iraq said this French built reactor was for power and civilian use. Sure, that's why there was anti aircraft fire, and intel showing generals crawling all over it. Have there been many army guys around the Springfield Power Plant lately? NO. There were schematics and documents showing basic materials to build and refine nukes, chemical weapons, and bio warfare. Captured Iraqi cabinet ministers and generals all said that Saddam was wanting to pursue it for a while, but they never got a full go ahead. Apparently Saddam worried that inspectors would find too much, THAT or Saddam had a program so clandestine only he and his sons knew it. Uday & Qusay are dead, which leaves Saddam to spill his guts, eventually. The inspector said while there was no imminent threat, no stockpiles that were visible, and no recent proof of weapons pursuit, Saddam was wanting to start a program and time would be on his side for a while.

4. No 9/11 Connection, but Saddam did like the terrorists:

Al Qaeda Connection- no Saddam memos to Osama were found, no confirmation on training, and even the famous Prague meeting has come into doubt.

HOWEVER Saddam did support terrorists in other ways. He would pay about $25,000 to the family members of suicide bombers who blew themselves up, AND killed Israelis.

Saddam gave refuge to Abu Nidal. Nidal was a terrorist in the 1980s who hijacked airliners, bombed cars, and staged two massacres at the Rome and Vienna El Al Israeli Airlines ticket counters. Dozens where blown up and machine gunned. Nidal was found dead in Iraq, in 2002-2003, executed by Saddam. Apparently this dirty secret, hiding a terrorist this vicious, was a liability.

Abu Abbas was also a guest of Saddam's. Abbas masterminded and led the 1985 Achille Lauro Hijacking of the Italian Ocean Liner. Abbas and his thugs shot and killed Leon Klinghoffer. Klinghoffer was a 69 year old, parapalegic. He was a retired NY Businessman but was shot for being a Jew. Klinghoffer's body and wheel chair were dumped overboard, in front of his wife, at least within in earshot of her. Mrs. Klinghoffer lived through this ordeal, but died, from what her family called, a broken heart. Abbas and his gang docked in Egypt and then fled. Their escape flight on an Air Egypt Airliner was intercepted over Sicily by US Navy F-14s, and grounded. President Ronald Reagan ordered the NAVY SEALS and Special Forces to board that plane and get Abbas and his gang. Colonel Oliver North helped plan this. Both Reagan and North were overruled and through international intrigue and politics, Abbas and his gang were handed over to the Italians. Italy let them escape, and Abbas ended up in Iraq. Abbas was captured, BUT died in US custody of heart failure. He had a heart,amazing. Kind of an insult to the Klinghoffer family how the escape occurred, but also Iraq giving this murderer and others like him refuge.

Training camps have been found near Baghdad. In them are shooting areas, but more shocking fuselages to a Boeing 747, a DC-10 and British and French Airplanes/old airliners. These were training on how to take a plane over. Some were rumored to be where the 911 hijackers or others are told where to take over and then slam their payload into a high rise or populated city.


THERE ARE OTHER REASONS, BUT THIS COULD GO ALL DAY. Saddam was a threat to humanity and had to go. Anyone who wants him back, and says we had no right to so, has insulted and invalidated our troops and their noble efforts. They have spat on the grave of Leon Klinghoffer, the troops we lost in Desert Storm, the missing POW in Iraq's family, the victims of 911, the families of the hostages that have been beheaded (sadly as of today- Kenneth Bigley is now one of the fatalities). Saddam had to go and anything less would not suffice.

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