DEBATE 1: Kerry's Plan & Flaws.
Last Night, President George W Bush and Senator John Kerry Debated on Foreign Policy and the War on Terror.
Last night Kerry gave a murky position, I have a plan that can be found at www.johnkerry.com. How does that frickin' help? That caters to couch potatoes and the ill informed. Kerry more or less says part of his new foreign strategy is to not just get US Troops out in 6 months, but also hunt down and get Osama better than Bush has done. Kerry stressed acting unillaterally, getting permission from the rest of the world before going into IRan or North Korea to remove their nukes. Kerry also said Saddam was a threat, contradicting himself and others who said Saddam was no real threat. Kerry said he voted based on a deception. Kerry may have offered a differing view but here are some flaws on what he did wrong.
1. Getting our troops out of Iraq- any commander will tell you it takes about 6 months to mobilize and demobilize troops out of a territory. That's assuming Iraq is calm in the next three months or so. Kerry more or less sounded like Zapatero of Spain, pull them out no matter what. Any commander would object because they would probably get sent back in to complete unfinished business. Gulf War 91 ring a bell, came close to resolving Saddam, but the UN and our Arab Coalition Allies disapproved. Kerry would pull our troops out and leave a vaccum. Iraq could degenerate into another Afghanistan theocracy, or Somalia- land of chaos.
2. Acting diplomatically not rash- considering there were over 14 UN Resolutions since 1991, Inspections that were halted and started and stopped again, numerous embargos, and 12 years of haggling, the US gave the false peace a chance. In the next situations in Iran, Iran may be able to build one nuclear weapon. If Kerry's peace plan hits the street, there will be enough years and months for Iran to increase it's WMDs. In North Korea- Kerry would have us believe that the US should head up negotiations with North Korea directly and that the Bush administration does nothing about the N Korean situation. First flaw on that North Korea walked away from our negotiations in the 1990s, and the fact that the US would be better with China and other allies, besides us doing it. Kerry needs to get his crap straight. In the time it takes to get Kim Jong Il to the table, they'll have more WMDs also. Time is not on our side if we drag out the diplomats.
3. Saddam was never a threat- yeah that's why Kuwait and Saudi Arabia needed our help in 1990, NO THREAT. Saddam was so nonthreatening that the US sent Patriots to shoot dragonflies out of the sky over Israel, not SCUD Missiles, that could be poor man's ICBMs. Saddam was also not a threat in gassing and murdering close to 500,000 of his own people and Iranians during his wars. Sure Saddam was no threat, like Michael Moore is a body builder. I guess Saddam was not a threat as Senator Kerry stated back in 1998, when President Bill Clinton had air strikes launched, nor was Saddam a threat when Kerry read a statement into the Senate records in 2002, or even in 2003 when he voted for the war. Can we say inconsistency? Saddam is in custody and no longer a threat, but how long would he have been loose to wreak havoc if Kerry's diplomacy overridden any security needs.
4. Deception vote- All of the Senators who voted for the war, read the same intel and classified info that President Bush, Vice President Cheney, Secretary Rumsfeld, CIA Director Tenet, Generals Myers, Franks, and others read. How can it be deception when the chiefs and Kerry came to the same conclusion? How is it deception when Britain's Attorney General and a Parliament Inquiry ruled that some info was flawed but no malice, aforethought or deception were in play? How is it deception of WMDs when Russian President Vladimir Putin warned of Saddam seeking to use WMDs on Coalition Troops in 2003? Russia voted against our use and probably had it's hands in Saddam's Cookie jar, but warned us. Why do that, if there was deception? In the book American Soldier by General Tommy Franks, Franks even mentions Jordan and Egypt warning on Iraqi WMDs and their possible deployment, along with some being smuggled. How is it deception when so many sources found the same thing that Kerry, Bush and our intel did? Saddam was a threat, and though there were flaws, there was no deception. The only deception is that of the truth, we acted on probable cause.
5. Kerry will get more allies- Sorry John. The French and Germans have more or less implied that they WILL NOT Send troops or aid to Iraq regardless if Kerry is elected or Bush is re-elected. Also, calling a coalition of our allies the coalition of the bribed or coereced will not get new friends. Kerry said that this is not a real coalition. Here are some of the countries that were and are with us. Great Britain, Australia, Italy, Poland, Holland, Denmark, Oman, UAE, Bulgaria, Romania, Japan, South Korea, and others...... I guess all of them had bribes, huh John? Tell me how insulting these economic and political stars will make us more regarded. Kerry is making more double time and work by insulting then having to apologize to these nations and heads of state. Kerry also knocked Iraqi Prime Minister Alawi, when he came to the US last week and gave a speech thanking us for our help and imploring that we stay there as long as necessary. Necessary, not forever. Allawi is a marked man, his bodyguards are US Special Forces/SEALS, and survived Saddam's Gestapo and torture tactics. Allawi was made out by a Kerry spokesperson to be a puppet. Real puppet, chosen by a council of leaders, that the free people chose. Hardly part of Saddam's Revolutionary Council, Senator Kerry. Also, if these "allies"- France, Germany, Belgium (they matter how?), China, and Russia didn't deploy this time, then why now?
There are no doubt more flaws, but I have limited space time, and blood pressure to post some of this. I do say this, if this is a plan, it is the wrong plan for America, our troops, our allies, The Free World, and the world that deserves the freedoms God can give them but man seeks to take away. Kerry has an inconsistent plan, consistent with failure and appeasement.
Last night Kerry gave a murky position, I have a plan that can be found at www.johnkerry.com. How does that frickin' help? That caters to couch potatoes and the ill informed. Kerry more or less says part of his new foreign strategy is to not just get US Troops out in 6 months, but also hunt down and get Osama better than Bush has done. Kerry stressed acting unillaterally, getting permission from the rest of the world before going into IRan or North Korea to remove their nukes. Kerry also said Saddam was a threat, contradicting himself and others who said Saddam was no real threat. Kerry said he voted based on a deception. Kerry may have offered a differing view but here are some flaws on what he did wrong.
1. Getting our troops out of Iraq- any commander will tell you it takes about 6 months to mobilize and demobilize troops out of a territory. That's assuming Iraq is calm in the next three months or so. Kerry more or less sounded like Zapatero of Spain, pull them out no matter what. Any commander would object because they would probably get sent back in to complete unfinished business. Gulf War 91 ring a bell, came close to resolving Saddam, but the UN and our Arab Coalition Allies disapproved. Kerry would pull our troops out and leave a vaccum. Iraq could degenerate into another Afghanistan theocracy, or Somalia- land of chaos.
2. Acting diplomatically not rash- considering there were over 14 UN Resolutions since 1991, Inspections that were halted and started and stopped again, numerous embargos, and 12 years of haggling, the US gave the false peace a chance. In the next situations in Iran, Iran may be able to build one nuclear weapon. If Kerry's peace plan hits the street, there will be enough years and months for Iran to increase it's WMDs. In North Korea- Kerry would have us believe that the US should head up negotiations with North Korea directly and that the Bush administration does nothing about the N Korean situation. First flaw on that North Korea walked away from our negotiations in the 1990s, and the fact that the US would be better with China and other allies, besides us doing it. Kerry needs to get his crap straight. In the time it takes to get Kim Jong Il to the table, they'll have more WMDs also. Time is not on our side if we drag out the diplomats.
3. Saddam was never a threat- yeah that's why Kuwait and Saudi Arabia needed our help in 1990, NO THREAT. Saddam was so nonthreatening that the US sent Patriots to shoot dragonflies out of the sky over Israel, not SCUD Missiles, that could be poor man's ICBMs. Saddam was also not a threat in gassing and murdering close to 500,000 of his own people and Iranians during his wars. Sure Saddam was no threat, like Michael Moore is a body builder. I guess Saddam was not a threat as Senator Kerry stated back in 1998, when President Bill Clinton had air strikes launched, nor was Saddam a threat when Kerry read a statement into the Senate records in 2002, or even in 2003 when he voted for the war. Can we say inconsistency? Saddam is in custody and no longer a threat, but how long would he have been loose to wreak havoc if Kerry's diplomacy overridden any security needs.
4. Deception vote- All of the Senators who voted for the war, read the same intel and classified info that President Bush, Vice President Cheney, Secretary Rumsfeld, CIA Director Tenet, Generals Myers, Franks, and others read. How can it be deception when the chiefs and Kerry came to the same conclusion? How is it deception when Britain's Attorney General and a Parliament Inquiry ruled that some info was flawed but no malice, aforethought or deception were in play? How is it deception of WMDs when Russian President Vladimir Putin warned of Saddam seeking to use WMDs on Coalition Troops in 2003? Russia voted against our use and probably had it's hands in Saddam's Cookie jar, but warned us. Why do that, if there was deception? In the book American Soldier by General Tommy Franks, Franks even mentions Jordan and Egypt warning on Iraqi WMDs and their possible deployment, along with some being smuggled. How is it deception when so many sources found the same thing that Kerry, Bush and our intel did? Saddam was a threat, and though there were flaws, there was no deception. The only deception is that of the truth, we acted on probable cause.
5. Kerry will get more allies- Sorry John. The French and Germans have more or less implied that they WILL NOT Send troops or aid to Iraq regardless if Kerry is elected or Bush is re-elected. Also, calling a coalition of our allies the coalition of the bribed or coereced will not get new friends. Kerry said that this is not a real coalition. Here are some of the countries that were and are with us. Great Britain, Australia, Italy, Poland, Holland, Denmark, Oman, UAE, Bulgaria, Romania, Japan, South Korea, and others...... I guess all of them had bribes, huh John? Tell me how insulting these economic and political stars will make us more regarded. Kerry is making more double time and work by insulting then having to apologize to these nations and heads of state. Kerry also knocked Iraqi Prime Minister Alawi, when he came to the US last week and gave a speech thanking us for our help and imploring that we stay there as long as necessary. Necessary, not forever. Allawi is a marked man, his bodyguards are US Special Forces/SEALS, and survived Saddam's Gestapo and torture tactics. Allawi was made out by a Kerry spokesperson to be a puppet. Real puppet, chosen by a council of leaders, that the free people chose. Hardly part of Saddam's Revolutionary Council, Senator Kerry. Also, if these "allies"- France, Germany, Belgium (they matter how?), China, and Russia didn't deploy this time, then why now?
There are no doubt more flaws, but I have limited space time, and blood pressure to post some of this. I do say this, if this is a plan, it is the wrong plan for America, our troops, our allies, The Free World, and the world that deserves the freedoms God can give them but man seeks to take away. Kerry has an inconsistent plan, consistent with failure and appeasement.
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