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Thursday, July 21, 2005

Robert Fisk, Gloating Over Terrorism


The reality of this barbaric bombing
If we are fighting insurgency in Iraq, what makes us think insurgency won’t come to us?
By Robert Fisk - 08 July 2005

"If you bomb our cities," Osama bin Laden said in one of his recent video tapes, "we will bomb yours." There you go, as they say. It was crystal clear Britain would be a target ever since Tony Blair decided to join George Bush’s "war on terror" and his invasion of Iraq.

Fisk, you are an arrogant one, aren't you? London was a terrorist target before Iraq. Maybe you forgot back in 2001-2002, the British police stopping ricine and gas plots that were planned long before 9/11 and long before Iraq. Britain is a target, regardless of your rationale. The War on Terror is not just George Bush's, you arrogant turd. It's a war against us and them. Us, the good guys, the civilized, which includes the newly liberated in Iraq & Afghanistan, and those in Lebanon and other lands yearning freedom. Them, well YOU and the terrorists you sympathize with.

We had, as they say, been warned. The G8 summit was obviously chosen, well in advance, as Attack Day.

Sure, Fisk, whatever. If they wanted to hit the G8, they'd have done it THERE. Also, in November 2003, the British embassy in Istambul and a British Bank skyscraper were bombed in Turkey, while Bush was in London. Timing is a bitch, isn't it?

And it’s no use Mr Blair telling us yesterday that "they will never succeed in destroying what we hold dear". "They" are not trying to destroy "what we hold dear". They are trying to get public opinion to force Blair to withdraw from Iraq, from his alliance with the United States, and from his adherence to Bush’s policies in the Middle East.

They ARE trying to hurt what most of England holds dear. Everyday life, security, freedom from fear. Apparently that went over your flat head, Fiskie. Public opinion? Yeah, I wonder what your article is trying to do. You made your mind up to blame the US for this attack. You sicken me. US Foreign policy in the Middle East? We inherited that from you, wanker. Didn't BRITAIN manage the Middle East from 1919 to 1945 or so? Didn't BRITAIN ask our help in Iran with the Shah? Didn't Britain occupy the Suez Canal when Nasser tried to block all shipping from it? Point one finger at us, four more are aimed at you, governor. No use telling Blair? No use telling you to maybe, I dunno, remember who the REAL ENEMY IS.

The Spanish paid the price for their support for Bush - and Spain’s subsequent retreat from Iraq proved that the Madrid bombings achieved their objectives

Spanish Armada- sunk by Britain's choppy seas, and smaller yet agile English raiding vessels. Spain also had a civil war, and sided with the Nazis. Don't lecture on Spain's bravery. They gave up and the terrorists won. Spain is still nabbing terrorists, thank God.

- while the Australians were made to suffer in Bali.

Bali was in 2002, you MORON! That was before Iraq! Bali had nothing to do with Iraq, you pustulent Douche Bag! Australia is SENDING MORE TROOPS to Iraq, and is not leaving. Terrorists did not suceed in toppling Australia. When the Aussies had hostages, they didn't negotiate and pay off like others, they sent in troops and rescued them.

It is easy for Tony Blair to call yesterdays bombings "barbaric" - of course they were -
but what were the civilian deaths of the Anglo-American invasion of Iraq in 2003, the children torn apart by cluster bombs, the countless innocent Iraqis gunned down at American military checkpoints?

Asshole, your side said there were over 100,000 dead in Iraq due to the invasion. It's more like 25,000. Also, Saddam slaughtered ALOT more kids and innocents than we did. Notice that the mass graves are not in service anymore? Or do you even care about that?

Where's your compassion for the newly freed Iraqis? come on Fisk, we're waiting.

When they die, it is "collateral damage"; when "we" die, it is "barbaric terrorism".

Nick Berg, Paul Johnson, and other beheaded is barbaric terrorism. The terrorists die, that's fine by me. And you can join your allies as far as I am concerned.

If we are fighting insurgency in Iraq, what makes us believe insurgency won’t come to us?

No one ever said that, moron.

One thing is certain: if Tony Blair really believes that by "fighting terrorism" in Iraq we could more efficiently protect Britain - fight them there rather than let them come here, as Bush constantly says - this argument is no longer valid.

Notice most terrorists are flooding into Iraq and most of the so-called insurgents are Saudis, Chechens, Pakistanis, Asians, and other Muslim extremists. It is working. Do you prefer we kill them there or let them flood into Hyde Park and shoot up your people?

To time these bombs with the G8 summit, when the world was concentrating on Britain, was not a stroke of genius. You don’t need a PhD to choose another Bush-Blair handshake to close down a capital city with explosives and massacre more than 30 of its citizens. The G8 summit was announced so far in advance as to give the bombers all the time they needed to prepare.
A co-ordinated system of attacks of the kind we saw yesterday would have taken months to plan - to choose safe houses, prepare explosives, identify targets, ensure security, choose the bombers, the hour, the minute, to plan the communications (mobile phones are giveaways).

Like 9/11, you moron. No one announced Bush going to Florida, when they planned it in 1998. As I recall, they didn't care who was in office. These are terrorists, you moron, not psychics.

Co-ordination and sophisticated planning - and the usual utter ruthlessness with regard to the lives of the innocent - are characteristic of al-Qa’ida. And let us not use - as our television colleagues did yesterday - "hallmarks", a word identified with quality silver rather than base metal.

Mmm Hmmm, like the terrorists time bombs to blow up Humvees and your troops in Iraq. Al Qaeda, imagine that.

And now let us reflect on the fact that yesterday, the opening of the G8, so critical a day, so bloody a day, represented a total failure of our security services - the same intelligence "experts" who claim there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq when there were none, but who utterly failed to uncover a months-long plot to kill Londoners.

Wrong priorities as usual. Upset about Iraq, and less so about Londoners dying. Where was your compassion on 9/11? He didn't mention that once.

Trains, planes, buses, cars, metros. Transportation appears to be the science of al-Qa’ida’s dark arts. No one can search three million London commuters every day. No one can stop every tourist. Some thought the Eurostar might have been an al-Qa’ida target - be sure they have studied it - but why go for prestige when your common or garden bus and Tube train are there for the taking.

Your own lax security needs scrutiny, now doesn't it? We learned, so why don't you?

And then come the Muslims of Britain, who have long been awaiting this nightmare. Now every one of our Muslims becomes the "usual suspect", the man or woman with brown eyes, the man with the beard, the woman in the scarf, the boy with the worry beads, the girl who says she’s been racially abused.

Hogwash, there are no mass pogroms. You probably aren't so concerned rather just using it.

I remember, crossing the Atlantic on 11 September 2001 - my plane turned round off Ireland when the US closed its airspace - how the aircraft purser and I toured the cabins to see if we could identify any suspicious passengers. I found about a dozen, of course, totally innocent men who had brown eyes or long beards or who looked at me with "hostility". And sure enough, in just a few seconds, Osama bin Laden turned nice, liberal, friendly Robert into an anti-Arab racist.

Racism, classic cry of the liberals. Racial profiling: Yeah 19 of 19 hijackers are from the same area of the world, and are part of the same radical sect of Islam. That's called being minimally observant. Take your racism cries and tell it to the kin of the 56 dead in London, or try that song and dance with the 3,000 families of those lost on 9/11.

And this is part of the point of yesterday’s bombings: to divide British Muslims from British non-Muslims (let us not mention the name Christians), to encourage the very kind of racism that Tony Blair claims to resent.

Let them step forward and help then. If not, they associate with the terrorists. SPEAK NOW OR FOREVER HOLD YOUR PEACE.

But here’s the problem. To go on pretending that Britain’s enemies want to destroy "what we hold dear" encourages racism; what we are confronting here is a specific, direct, centralised attack on London as a result of a "war on terror" which Lord Blair of Kut al-Amara has locked us into.

Terrorism encourages anger, and the enemies are out to destroy anyone they do not like. Your pretending is letting them think they can keep doing this. Also, the War of Terror is one that you would have been targeted in, Iraq or no Iraq. Blame the dead, blame the victims, but never the terrorists. You disgust me.

Just before the US presidential elections, Bin Laden asked: "Why do we not attack Sweden?"
Lucky Sweden. No Osama bin Laden there. And no Tony Blair.

Sweden also caved into gay marriage, but is letting a majority of militant Islams into their country, I don't see the two mixing well. No Tony Blair? Well, Tony DID get re-elected. As did John Howard in Australia, George W Bush in the US, and Berlusconni in Italy. These men all fought the enemy and still are and retain office. The cowards will retain safety but will pay a higher price later.

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