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Wednesday, July 20, 2005

Ken Livingstone, You Stupid Moron

Ken, you frickin moron, you D-Bag supreme! WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU THINKING?

Here's what he said:

"A lot of young people see the double standards, they see what happens in (U.S. detention camp) Guantanamo Bay, and they just think that there isn't a just foreign policy," he said.
Police say they believe there is a clear link between bin Laden's al Qaeda network and the four British Muslims who blew up three underground trains and a double-decker bus on July 7.
"You've just had 80 years of Western intervention into predominantly Arab lands because of a Western need for oil. We've propped up unsavory governments, we've overthrown ones that we didn't consider sympathetic," Livingstone said.

Blah blah blah, Red Ken shows his true colors. Blame his own government and people, but not the terrorists. Idiot. Yeah, Ken, London wasn't hit by terrorists in the 1980s or 1970s. And I don't mean IRA, I mean Libyans, Iranians, and Palestinians. Who did you blame it on then?

"I think the particular problem we have at the moment is that in the 1980s ... the Americans recruited and trained Osama bin Laden, taught him how to kill, to make bombs, and set him off to kill the Russians to drive them out of Afghanistan."

Yeah, we trained others besides Bin Laden and not ALL OF THEM went wacko like Osama. It worked did it not?

"They didn't give any thought to the fact that once he'd done that, he might turn on his creators," he told BBC radio.

Nice Mary Shelley analogy there, Kenny. Did you think that up on your own?



  • At 12:33 PM, Blogger owdbob said…

    OL Ken seems to forget about the British Sailors the Musslims took as slaves in the 1700 and 1800. Commies always have memory failure when the time is right.

  • At 1:37 PM, Blogger Kevin said…

    Yea good point. The Brits certainly steered clear of enslaving people...

  • At 1:46 PM, Blogger Kevin said…

    Also, Nick, post the link to that article. I wanted to see what else he had to say b/c it seems like the post didn't include everything.

    And doesnt your bible say 'let he who is without sin cast the first stone'?

    I am continually confused why it makes one a commie (amongst other things), to put some blame on our western governments. It doesn't mean one sympathizes with the terrorists and says, 'ok well I guess it's ok that you're trying to kill us', but it DOES suggest that perhaps there are SOME faults (perhaps many) in our system.

    In addition, perhaps FIXING some of those faults might calm the rest of the world. It's the classic case of HEARING whats going on, but not LISTENING.

  • At 2:55 PM, Blogger NDwalters said…

    Hearing what's going on? Listening? What is this therapy?

    Hate to tell Ken and the other blamers this, but Russia invaded Afghanistan, before we liberated it. Russia was about to take the Middle East, they had to be stopped.

    Now, we have to admit some shortsightedness on Osama, unfortunately he was an obscure nonentity then. Also, most of the Mujahadeen were fighting to liberate Afghanistan, not star a worldwide jihad.

    Ken forgets that his own government, the ones he serves, had a hand in this also. While prior administrations may have had some problems, how could they have noted the terrorists were planting a bumper crop in Afghanistan?

    Let's see, hmmmm. CIA Reports, ignored by then Senator Al Gore. MI5 Reports by certain Brits like Neil Kinnock. What's the phrase the 9/11 commission used? INSTITUTIONAL FAILURES.

    Now, if you read into Ken's statements, they can be found at slight oversight, I usually put arty links or the main site link....

    The Brits had policy quirks as did we. Should we not be focusing on the terrorists, NOW, rather than blaming the sins of our fathers? Ken seems to prefer Self-Hating Limey status.

    So, Mayor Ken, do the Brits deserve wrath or THE TERRORISTS?

    Kevin, what say you?

  • At 3:17 PM, Blogger Kevin said…

    I say you are right, for the most part.

    And truthfully, we should be blaming both parts for the ordeal.

    ...the terrorists for wreaking terror, and the western governments for their foreign policy (or lack there of it as the case may be).

    So, we SHOULD be focusing on terrorists, but equally as important, we should be focusing on how to remedy our treatment of such foreign policy. Hence my LISTENING rather than just HEARING line was to say, perhaps we should listen to what grievances are really out there and see what we can do about them.

  • At 3:46 PM, Blogger NDwalters said…

    No use in yelling at the past right now, recrimination can wait. Call it a learning experience.

    After all, we learned from Vietnam.

    Yes we did to learn from Vietnam.


  • At 4:02 PM, Blogger Kevin said…


    Well professor, please indulge me =]

    What DID we learn from Vietnam?

  • At 9:03 AM, Blogger NDwalters said…

    Well, here's what WE DID NOT LEARN but should have, from Vietnam:

    1. Letting eggheads and spinning heads dictate the war, NOT our troops and commanders.
    2. Fighting a new kind of war restrained.
    3. Protestors learn new chants.

    What WE DID LEARN:

    1. Not to fight by last two war's rules or methods.
    2. A tad more secrecy than in Nam.
    3. Our enemy is infront of us and behind us.
    4. Hit with more force than before.


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