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Tuesday, July 19, 2005


Not a great figure: about 25,000 Iraqis were killed in the War of Liberation and aftermath for Iraq.

Read this:

25,000 civilians 'killed in Iraq'

Nearly 25,000 civilians have died violently in Iraq since the US-led invasion in March 2003, a report says.
Based on more than 10,000 media reports, the dossier is the first detailed account of such deaths.
"The ever-mounting Iraqi death toll is the forgotten cost of the decision to go to war in Iraq," said John Sloboda, one of the report authors.
The Iraq Body Count and Oxford Research Group, made up of academics and peace activists, carried out the survey.
The Dossier on Civilian Casualties in Iraq 2003-2005 says 37% of all non-combatant deaths were caused by US-led forces.
Neither the US nor the UK governments have begun to systematically measure the impact of their actions in terms of human lives destroyed John Sloboda Report author
Many of these occurred during the invasion phase, which it counts as ending on 1 May 2003.
But killings by anti-occupation and criminal elements also increased steadily over the entire two-year period.
Insurgents are said to have caused 9% of the deaths, while post-invasion criminal violence was responsible for another 36%.
The number of civilians who have died has almost doubled in the second year from the first, according to the report.
Almost a fifth of the 24,865 deaths were women or children and nearly half of all the civilian deaths were reported in the capital Baghdad.
"On average, 34 ordinary Iraqis have met violent deaths every day since the invasion of March 2003," said Mr Sloboda.
"It remains a matter of the gravest concern that, nearly two-and-a-half years on, neither the US nor the UK governments have begun to systematically measure the impact of their actions in terms of human lives destroyed."
The Iraqi government welcomed the attention to report gave to Iraqi victims, but said it was mistaken in claiming that the "plague of terrorism" had killed fewer Iraqis that the multi-national forces.
"The international forces try to avoid civilian casualties, whereas the terrorists target civilians and try to kill as many of them as they can," it said in a statement.
"The root cause of Iraq's suffering is terrorism, inherited from Saddam's fascist regime and from mistaken fundamentalist ideology.
"Everybody knows that international forces are necessary in Iraq, on a temporary basis and they will leave Iraq at a time chosen by Iraqis, not in response to terrorist pressure."
The IBC wants to see an independent commission set up in Iraq to give the best estimate of civilian deaths and full details of how each person died.
Human rights groups say the occupying powers in Iraq have failed in their duty to catalogue the deaths of civilians.
But the US and Britain say the chaos of war-torn Iraq has made it impossible to get accurate information.
More than 1,700 US soldiers and dozens of other coalition troops are known to have died.
The Iraqi government says 1,300 Iraqi police and military have been killed since security forces were set up in late 2003. But US think-tank the Brookings Institute puts the figure at almost twice this number.
More than half of all civilian deaths were said to have been caused by explosive devices, which disproportionately affected children.
At least 42,500 civilians were reported to have been injured.
The UK-based Iraq Body Count - run by academics and peace activists - is one of the most widely-quoted sources of information on the civilian death toll in Iraq.
The Oxford Research Group describes itself as an independent organisation "which seeks to develop effective methods whereby people can bring about positive change on issues of national and international security by non-violent means".

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  • At 2:48 AM, Blogger Kevin said…

    "Not a great figure: about 25,000 Iraqis were killed in the War of Liberation and aftermath for Iraq. "

    Well, I am pleasantly surprised to hear you state such a comment.

    I would like to add, however, that that is exactly the reason that your 'liberal' viewers were overly hesitant about fighting a war in the first place. And I don't mean the leftist hippies whom would NEVER choose war, I mean the legitimate liberals that see war as a last resort.

    Smart bombs are NOT smart. And thats not liberal-haha, it's an engineering fact.

    So, even IF it's true that we fought the war to combat the terrorism that destroyed the towers, they would have had to fall between 5 and 12 times (depending on what stats you take in there) before the death toll was as high as 25,000.


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