Pledge Banned for Campus by Students?
Oh check this out, I'm sure the veterans love the fact they bled for this country to have some little Che Guevera Demon Seeds defecate all over it....
Take you BP pills before you read this....
http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=domesticNews&storyid=2006-11-10T021338Z_01_N09494500_RTRUKOC_0_US-LIFE-PLEDGE.xml&src=rss&rpc=22
And get this little Trotskyite.....
"That ('under God') part is sort of offensive to me," student trustee Jason Bell, who proposed the ban, told Reuters. "I am an atheist and a socialist, and if you know your history, you know that 'under God' was inserted during the McCarthy era and was directly designed to destroy my ideology."
Bell said the ban largely came about because the trustees didn't want to publicly vow loyalty to the American government before their meetings. "Loyalty ought to be something the government earns through performance, not through reciting a pledge," he said.
Is anyone picking up on the fact that Jason here, other than being a selfish little putz, is a pompous one at that? I mean, he declares his beliefs more important than the majority of his campus or the country. Freedom of speech? Only if it agrees with Joe Stalin's little talking points. An atheist and socialist and he doesn't like it here.
Well, do what my grandad says, 'If you don't like it, move to Russia.' Seriously, Jason, move, leave the US. You and your kind are poison. And despite you last part being somewhat correct that the government must earn trust, the country and pledge are for more than the country, you little wank. Also, subverting the pledge doesn't work as many more will still do it.
Your godless brand of socialism worked so well in Russia, it only killed 50 million plus people. China, just as many if not more. The Killing Fields of Cambodia, just 30% of that country. Funny thing, socialism and communism are falling. God still remains. Odd how that works, Jason.
Twerp.
Yes vets, you fought and bled even for this chode.
Good luck America.
Take you BP pills before you read this....
http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=domesticNews&storyid=2006-11-10T021338Z_01_N09494500_RTRUKOC_0_US-LIFE-PLEDGE.xml&src=rss&rpc=22
And get this little Trotskyite.....
"That ('under God') part is sort of offensive to me," student trustee Jason Bell, who proposed the ban, told Reuters. "I am an atheist and a socialist, and if you know your history, you know that 'under God' was inserted during the McCarthy era and was directly designed to destroy my ideology."
Bell said the ban largely came about because the trustees didn't want to publicly vow loyalty to the American government before their meetings. "Loyalty ought to be something the government earns through performance, not through reciting a pledge," he said.
Is anyone picking up on the fact that Jason here, other than being a selfish little putz, is a pompous one at that? I mean, he declares his beliefs more important than the majority of his campus or the country. Freedom of speech? Only if it agrees with Joe Stalin's little talking points. An atheist and socialist and he doesn't like it here.
Well, do what my grandad says, 'If you don't like it, move to Russia.' Seriously, Jason, move, leave the US. You and your kind are poison. And despite you last part being somewhat correct that the government must earn trust, the country and pledge are for more than the country, you little wank. Also, subverting the pledge doesn't work as many more will still do it.
Your godless brand of socialism worked so well in Russia, it only killed 50 million plus people. China, just as many if not more. The Killing Fields of Cambodia, just 30% of that country. Funny thing, socialism and communism are falling. God still remains. Odd how that works, Jason.
Twerp.
Yes vets, you fought and bled even for this chode.
Good luck America.
posted by NDwalters @ 3:05 PM
6 Comments:
At 5:12 PM,
Ranando said…
I was just thinking about how the Right always puts everything in the hands of God.
Well, I wanted to thank God for watching over this great nation during this past election.
I guess you can say God was with each and everyone of us when we voted. Thank you God for getting America back on track.
God bless America.
At 12:57 PM,
NDwalters said…
Simple transaction, Kev? Well, consider yourself at the end of the line. Unfortunately, some of those fat cats work only if they get bribed or a 'nice gift or contribution....' Ever seen the movie True Colors? Had John Cusack and James Spader, two law school guys go their ways, one's a Senate candidate gone crooked, and the other, his best friend is the DOJ prosecutor who has to bust him. Good flick.
Democratic process? Student Government, you know how manipulated Student Government is. High school ring a bell? It got all kinds of fluffy. Also, I ain't movin nowhere. I like it here too much. Minus the humidity, the hurricanes, the never ending road work, etc.....
At 5:56 PM,
Marshal Art said…
When one recites the pledge, one isn't pledging loyalty to the government, but to the flag and to the republic for which it stands. Both "the flag" and "the republic" are representations of "us", not the government. Thus, these brainiac kids are less than fully educated. It could also be said that it represents the land upon which we live. So one would be pledging loyalty to one's home. Also, the phrase was inserted because of our concern over communism more specifically than socialism. So again, the kid's an idiot. Now for very, very stupid men, like mooney, an obvious nut who apparently hasn't fallen far from the tree, such distinctions might be lost. But then, as this kid seems cut from the same self-centered cloth as mooney, it's not surprising. I would also add, that whether or not they voted for this policy, flipped a coin, or pinned a tail on a picture of mooney, for it's a good substitute for a donkey's ass, it doesn't matter. What does is that these sad cases are of the belief that they, at their young age, have it all down to a tee. Yet, I would doubt that any of them have spent serious time examining the arguments for God's existence to have such a firm but fallacious conviction that He doesn't.
Renando,
I would not argue with the sentiments of your post in any way, for God indeed works in mysterious ways. We cannot know His purpose, thoughts, agenda. If what you say is true, then it's all good for God is perfect and makes no mistakes. It's certainly a head-scratcher what His purpose might be in allowing a party with such buffoonish leadership like Pelosi to take control in such troubled times, but if He wants it, I'm for it.
Kevin,
Service? Do you expect your house to provide without your financial support? Can it cut it's own grass or feed it's inhabitants? Our country is our home. It needs financial support to be one. Even conservatives who want to pay as little taxes as possible only do so out of concern over paying too much for things that don't belong in the house (so to speak). But rather than cut the nation's grass ourselves, we elect people to do these things for us. Just as you would appreciate support for your favorite candidates that get elected, you must also support those that get elected that you didn't like. You don't have to like them, but only understand that they are still your representatives when elected to office. It's the way the system works. Don't forget that you're not the only one who lives in this house. Your taxes aren't investment dollars, they're paying for maintenance, so it doesn't show up in your ROI. Your investment comes with being a good and productive citizen and being involved in the process. You know, "Ask not..."
At 11:44 PM,
Marshal Art said…
Kevin,
A few points:
The McCarthy era was all about communism as I recall. This is what the kid was referring to.
I wasn't disputing their process, the fact that they voted, rather I was lamenting the fact that they think they believe as they do, or that they think they are justified in their beliefs. Of course we are free to believe what we want. It doesn't mean our beliefs are correct, sensible, founded on facts, or so worthy as to be free of mockery. mooney's free to believe whatever stupid crap he wants, and I support that right. But I believe he's an idiot and deserving of laughter.
Once again, we are pledging allegiance to each other, not the government. So your discontent with the policies or results of the government is what is irrelevant. And the kids make the same mistake in thinking the pledge is a show of loyalty to the government. It's just not the way it is. For one to be an American has absolutely nothing to do with who is in office or how well the government is performing it's duties. In fact, I would argue that one's dislike for the workings of the government is a way of showing loyalty, if that anger is based on a desire for what's best for the country. There are those like mooney, who are more concerned with loyalty to themselves and what's best for them is paramount, and they should at least show some level of loyalty to the best country for enjoying such a masturbatory existence.
" You can't for a second suggest that because they don't believe in god that their process is wrong."
I don't. My point was that their atheism is likely based on little if not nothing. It's been my experience that for most atheists, their non-belief isn't based on any real research, logic, or that they actually labored before coming up with their position. Rather, for all the bluster to the contrary, it seems to be more of a simple choice (which of course they're free to make) that allows them to forgo certain considerations concerning behavior in which they desire to engage. Which is kinda weird, as they use God, or rather their stated atheism, to justify their behavior, rather than any reasoned secular explanation for why there's no problem with their behavior.
BTW, "God" is a proper noun like "Kevin", and therefor the "g" should be capitalized if you are to say, "...because they don't believe in God..." as opposed to. "...because they don't believe in 'a' god..." I'm sure that was an oversight.
For the moondog,
The issue is exactly the flag and the republic. The item describes the kids' refusal to recite the pledge and why. The mention of God was only a part of it.
But the insertion of the phrase into the pledge is in line with the founders' belief that our rights are from God ("endowed by our Creator"). They certainly believed that we are a nation under God's protection and blessings. And the fact is that they designed a secular government to administer to this Christian nation. This distinction has been made consistently over the time the USA has been in existence. And that there should be no religious references on public buildings, in public documents or in public debate is a concept put forth with religious-like fervor for a relatively recent and brief period of our history. You'd think a self-centered prick like yourself would be content to live in a country as you do without having to pretend you actually give a rat's ass about such things. You ain't kiddin' nobody.
At 11:27 PM,
Marshal Art said…
cartooney,
For stupid retort #1: That you think I am on the losing end is just more illustration of your own stupidity. You have yet to counter my point with an intelligent argument. If there's a "loser" here, it's you on so many levels.
For stupid retort #2: Is that the best you can do? What makes you think that there'd be any desire to change the flag to which we so willingly and happily pledge allegiance? It is only the very, very stupid, like yourself, who claim that Christians want a theocracy. You really need to pick it up a little and strive harder to find that clue you so sorely lack.
At 11:18 PM,
Marshal Art said…
Maybe you should take notes, nimrod. As has been stated over and over, it's a Christian nation with a secular government. Like I said in my last post, no one is looking to form a theocracy, and the founders weren't either. The establishment clause is for that purpose, but that's not the same as a country of Christians. So what are you going to twist next?
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