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Wednesday, October 12, 2005

Chancellor Schroeder, rips US in ungraceful farewell speech.

LINK: http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/10/12/051012144856.vqok83vk.html


Departing German chancellor Schroeder takes swipe at BushOct 12 10:49 AM US/Eastern Email this story

Outgoing German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder has aimed a broadside at US President George W. Bush, saying Hurricane Katrina showed what happened when a state neglected its duty.
Schroeder made his comments in a speech to a trade union in Hanover on Wednesday in which he warned of the dangers of eroding the welfare functions of the state.

This is another reason why we left Europe. They have no clue what decentralized government is and that the local and state governments must take their share of the tasks. Of course in a land with 12% unemployment and stagflation, they're better than us right? Nope....

"I can think of a recent disaster that shows what happens when a country neglects its duties of state towards its people," said Schroeder, who will soon cede his post to conservative rival Angela Merkel.

Yeah, let's talk about the growing threat of Islamofascism, that you neglected and let ferment. This guy did not learn from the Weimar Republic. They sat and sang and hoped nothing would happen, but it goose-stepped into power anyway. Schroeder's legacy will be as the Chancellor who split with the US, inflamed Europe, and tanked his own economy. Schroeder talks of the duty of the state towards its people. Yeah, that's rich from the land of euthanasia and ethnic genocide. Bite me, Herr Schroeder. Also, the state is only as effective as it's people. Your people seemed content to suck down beer and eat bratwust, while we fought and liberated two countries and stimied other tyrants. Kiss the hairiest part of our ass!

"My post as chancellor, which I still hold, does not allow me to name that country but you all know that I am talking about America," Schroeder said to laughter and applause.

Of course Der Deutsche applauded. On cue, as usual. Herr Goebbels and Leni Riefenstahl would have been proud of this new wave of socialist Nazis. Screwen ze Herren!

Schroeder fell out with Bush over the war in Iraq when he refused to commit German troops to the war and relations between the two leaders have remained chilly.

Yet he did commit troops to Afghanistan, and did help in the War on Terror. However, they refuse to deport anyone who faces the death penalty. Wow, a little guilt over what you guys put into power in 1933?

In another jab at the US president on Wednesday, Schroeder spoke of British Prime Minister Tony Blair as "my British friend, who also has other friends," in a reference to their alliance on Iraq.

Figures that the Saxons would take a swipe at the Anglos. They have been enemies for years. Blair had the guts. Schroeder had the bitterness. Oh wait, Blair won, and Schroeder lost his re-election. Aufuedersahen Schroeder!

Schroeder made the remarks to warn against Merkel's policies, which he says will change the nature of Germany's cherished welfare state and create a less humane society.
"People do not want the state in their faces, but they want it by their side," he said.

Only in their faces if it's your brand of socialism, right Gerhard? Yeah, thank God the Germans tossed you out.... Disgraceful taking a swipe at the incoming administration. Bitterness and envy will be the undoing of Germany, not policies. These guys make the Democrats look like mature folks....

Three weeks after inconclusive national elections, he had agreed on Sunday to step down to allow Merkel to lead a left-right coalition of their respective parties.

And now the gun begins. Good luck, Germany. Hopefully you can change before you're swallowed up by the next Evil Empire...

22 Comments:

  • At 12:53 PM, Blogger Kevin said…

    This is another reason why we left Europe.

    Oh come now ole chap.

    We left Europe so that we could infect natives with small pox only AFTER taking their land, crush and hang people for being witches, and spread fundamentalist fairytales of Christianity to our society of slaves. Mind you, all the while measuring things in inches and cups instead of meters and liters for some god forsaken reason.

    Sheesh - I thought everyone knew that.

     
  • At 1:06 PM, Blogger Staci said…

    Dude, you need a serious history lesson is all I can say. Do you realize that even when Cooke came to Hawaii, the Hawaiians had already been infected with 'European' diseases? And do you also realize we 'left' Europe in the sense that England, the primary colonizing country in Europe was being quite unfair. I mean come one tard, even elementary students know the phrase 'taxation without representation.'

    I also wonder if you know which groups orchestrated the slave trade. I tell you one...the fricken cheifs. You guess the other idiot. They were the primary middle men.

    And it is truly pathetic you don't know that.

     
  • At 1:11 PM, Blogger NDwalters said…

    No Kevin, if you read a thing without a liberal slant. You'd know that some, the Pilgrims fled Europe b/c of religious persecution and came here. Some were conquistadors, but many just came in for a new life. Apparently that doesn't appeal to you.

    Indians were hanged for scalping families, women and kids included, you twit. They practiced human sacrifice and judging by that Christianity was an improvement. Oh as far as fundamentalist fairy tales go, be so brazen with God, I dare ya.

    Second, the blacks latched onto Christianity, and I think you called them all ignorant, by logic. Hypocrite....

    And as far as disease goes, spare me that blankets and flu crap. The Black Plague made its way around the world, you twit. Plague came with the settlers whether they wanted it or not.

    Also, we happen to like the standard measure system, which the British made up and keep. And since you seem to not like the US, we'll help you move.

    Are you this ignorant or did you study liberalism to learn it. Done with you.....

     
  • At 1:22 PM, Blogger Kevin said…

    LOL. What a fantastic set of responses to what I figured was a comic tale.

    All the same.

    For Staci:

    I mean come one tard, even elementary students know the phrase 'taxation without representation.'

    Yes, and in elementary school, I seem to recall that being a catch phrase of the American colonies - not of the pilgrims. So while there were many GOOD reasons to leave Europe, that catch phrase was not one of them.

    As per the diseases, yes, natives had SOME, but they certainly did not have the epic surge of smallpox, TB, and various flu-like strains that Europeans quickly helped to give them. Still, I don't fault the Europeans for this as noone knew - fact is, it still occurred.

    As per the slave trading, I didn't specify any of the orchestrators as books do seem to dictate that the Africans had much to do about it. All the same, we certainly DID help to perpetuate the system, no?

     
  • At 1:30 PM, Blogger Kevin said…

    For Nick:

    You'd know that some, the Pilgrims fled Europe b/c of religious persecution and came here.

    Yes, which SHOULD have been a great thing - except that religious persecution started all over again but this time at the hands of someone new. Good improvement.

    Indians were hanged for scalping families, women and kids included, you twit.

    Thats just plain bullshit. Read whatever history book you want, left or right slanted, both will agree thats a HUGELY fabricated concept. While it DID historically occur, it was not some sort of occurrence that hollywood has made it out to be.

    They practiced human sacrifice and judging by that Christianity was an improvement.

    I wont try to justify their beliefs - I don't agree with their sacrafices. But I neither agree with our freedom-of-religion seekers (aka Pilgrims) hanging innocent people because they so feared the devil (and witchcraft - and other things).

    Second, the blacks latched onto Christianity, and I think you called them all ignorant, by logic.

    They were ignorant. That's exactly how slave owners kept them. Are you going to tell me next that slave owners went through lengths to educate their slaves?

    Plague came with the settlers whether they wanted it or not.

    I agree - read what I wrote to Staci on that.

    Also, we happen to like the standard measure system, which the British made up and keep.

    I won't even directly comment on that sentence. Wanting to change systems is a futile effort - but one still can't help but wonder why we would choose to use it. (this especially on the fact that we hated the Brits at the time)

     
  • At 1:53 PM, Blogger Staci said…

    And just rereading, I want to acknowledge my spelling errors on a FRICKEN BLOG before this pompous little shit comes on and uses that as a lame defense.

     
  • At 1:55 PM, Blogger Staci said…

    My point was dumbass, that what you refer to was when the pilgrims, settlers, conquistadors, ect were here, fucking EUROPE was their governing bodies. Dumbass.

     
  • At 2:00 PM, Blogger Staci said…

    And no, you wouldn't dare hold Europe responsible, would you. It's all AMERICA's fault. This country came AFTER that shit.

    Regarding slavery, let me remind you, EVERYONE was coming here as an indentured servent. My fricken family was one and had to literally fight for that freedom. And it wasn't EVERYONE who advocated slaves in the south. Why the fuck should I have to pay for crimes of people who are NOT even alive, I would never accept it. And based on that twisted logic, then I should be awarded for the fact that MY family in Georgia supposedly used their wealth to buy abused and families threatened to be separated and keep them until the carpetbaggers came. BULLSHIT. There were good and bad Kevin back then, just like today. And the same applies to common sense and blatent stupidity.

     
  • At 2:05 PM, Blogger NDwalters said…

    Nope Kevin, you more or less made a blanket statement that every Christian is an ignorant peon. And that you're HL Mencken types are ubermensch. No frickin way. You guys are superior in your minds. Imperious is more like it. Some slaves were educated, or learned on their own. How did they learn? Hmmm, read their Bibles as I recall.

    Cite something about witchcraft besides the Crucible, that was anti-Commie hunter propaganda.

    Also, deny that in Tenohitlican, that there was never Human Sacrifice to Quetzocatal....their sun and blood god. Deny that Mexico flourished after the Christians took charge, and that the MExican independence movement of 1811 was not originated with some Catholics and Christians who were against bad European rulers.....

    As I recall most of the Founding Fathers, in the USA, were Christians or at least went along with Christ.....

    Also, your Indian MAssacres is Bullshit Theory is bunk. John Rolfe, a VA settler and most of his settlement inland from Jamestown were massacred in the 1600s. Fort Mims was a massacre in 1810s, which Andrew Jackson avenged. Little Bighorn ring a bell? Apparently self-hating whites like you enjoy hearing about us getting it, even back then. Nice attitude, Kevin.

    Come on. Make the USA out to be a land of parasites and ex-cons. Remember that, when you live off the freedoms others died to create and protect for you.

     
  • At 2:15 PM, Blogger Kevin said…

    What in gods name are you blathering about?

    Firstly, I didn't say anything about spelling or grammar or anything of the sort. So that ends that.

    Secondly:

    And no, you wouldn't dare hold Europe responsible, would you.

    That's actually not true at all. I hold Europe VERY responsible for WHY people wanted to leave. My only poiny was that they didn't make things any better. They still persecuted people, religious and otherwise, and while slavery already existed, they still couldn't see that it was wrong, etc etc.

    Here we are 400 years after Jamestown colony and my only point is that I don't think we a whole lot better.

    That's not to say that the Europe of 1600 was better than the American colonies, because it wasn't.

    But 400 years of evolving, and outside of being rich, we're in all sorts of problems - many roots to those problems starting 400 years ago. And I'd add that now, with Eurpoe finally realizing that they should work together, we're not even richer than them anymore.

    Why the fuck should I have to pay for crimes of people who are NOT even alive, I would never accept it.

    Again - what the fuck are you talking about? I merely said that we enslaved people - it was a point, a fact. And then I asked, we helped to perpetuate it, no? The answer (obvious as it was), was yes, we did. There was no implication of anything there, just that our colonial 'utopia' didn't fix things that originated in Europe.

    ...it certainly didn't try to curb the persecution that had already existed forever and a day in Eurpoe - even though "Reasons Pilgrims left England" number one answer:

    survey says: to be free of persecution

    hey imagine that - a coincidence.

     
  • At 2:15 PM, Blogger Kevin said…

    PS that last post was for Staci - not Nick.

     
  • At 2:23 PM, Blogger Staci said…

    You have before Steve, when we previously discussed gas. How soon you forget.

     
  • At 2:36 PM, Blogger Les said…

    Thought I'd chime in with a quick thought, Nick. I promise I won't stay too long. ;-)

    I'm not exactly the biggest Schröder fan, but in his defense, he did break rank with the SPD in his support for welfare reforms. It essentially fractured the party and led to his resignation as chairman. It was a ballsy move on his part. Welfare is Germany's sacred cow - especially in the eastern part - and he at least had the guts to side with his political opposition in an effort to curb the unemployment crisis. Unfortunately for him, it cost him his job.

    Check out Agenda 2010 sometime. It's pretty interesting.

     
  • At 2:36 PM, Blogger Kevin said…

    To Nick:

    Some slaves were educated...

    Ok fine. Quantify how many as a percentage. I'm guessing 2-3%. Bear in mind, educated would mean that their level of education matched the average persons level of education. While this isn't high, it's a lot more than slaves got.

    Cite something about witchcraft besides the Crucible

    Ok - how about this. How about even though they sought religious freedom, those who chose NOT to follow Christianity were persecuted, sometimes imprisoned, and sometimes put to death.

    How about anyone who followed astrology? How about the fact that many natives were religiously persecuted because of something as simple as their language?? (because some were 'perceived' as sacreligious given they were denoted in symbols - pictograms I believe)

    Also, deny that in Tenohitlican, that there was never Human Sacrifice to Quetzocatal

    Umm, well I don't know how we got onto Mexican history -- but yes - from what I understand there were sacrafices. I also wrote clearly that I disagreed with their sacrafices - but it didn't make the 'sacrafice' of 'witches' in the US any better.

    Also, Quetzalcoatl meant a variety of things to different spices of Mexican Indians. In addition, many traditional views of Quetzalcoatl OPPOSED human sacrafices.

    Deny that Mexico flourished after the Christians took charge

    Well - having lived in Mexico for a few extended stints of my life, I'm going to have to disagree that in the long run, I'm not sure Mexico 'flourished'.

    As I recall most of the Founding Fathers, in the USA, were Christians or at least went along with Christ.....

    Yes, we've spoken of this before. What does that have to do with freedom of religion?

    Scalping - just read this - it's short.

    Scalping

     
  • At 2:38 PM, Blogger Kevin said…

    You have before Steve, when we previously discussed gas. How soon you forget.

    3 things.

    1) I didn't forget.
    2) My name is not Steve.
    3) I apologized shortly thereafter for pointing out what I did and if I recall, added that I did not weigh the stupid error in my responses.

     
  • At 2:42 PM, Blogger Kevin said…

    to Nick:

    Also, I'm not sure why I didn't mention it since you were somehow suggesting that we 'helped' Mexico.

    Cortez was able to get close to ole Monty because Monte thought he was a God - Quetzalcoatl I might add.

    Sooo, umm, I'm not sure if it was a 'good' thing for the Aztecs that Cortez tricked their leader, destroyed their colony, and sent the riches back to Spain.

    Again -- it's history, so I'm not crying for the Aztecs or anything -- but I'm not sure you can say it helped them to 'flourish'.

     
  • At 2:43 PM, Blogger NDwalters said…

    Les, I expect European elections to get nastier and nastier......

    Kevin, I spout facts, you spout contorted facts.

    Staci, forget it, it's all semantics to some.....

     
  • At 2:48 PM, Blogger Kevin said…

    Kevin, I spout facts, you spout contorted facts.

    Please illustrate 3 examples I 'contorted' and I will provide as much evidence as I can to illustrate the points.

     
  • At 3:00 PM, Blogger NDwalters said…

    We helping Mexico, as in Western Civilization. What was it before Cortez? Not what it could have been. Montezuma was no angel, he was a blood god worshipper, so let's not pretend he was like Kicking Bird from Dances With Wolves.....

     
  • At 3:14 PM, Blogger Kevin said…

    Still -- I am so very confused how we went from American history with the Indians, to Mexican history with the Spaniards.

    Before Cortez it was successful city and was noted as "...amongst the largest in the world alongside Paris and Constantinople".

    (from wiki)

    so let's not pretend he was like Kicking Bird from Dances With Wolves

    Excellent point - let's not pretend. But -- instead let's remember that 'kicking bird' was supposed to have been a PEACEFUL plains Indian of what is, of course, the US. So, given what I was saying earlier, I am confused how tribes such as the Sioux equate(d) to that of the Aztecs (who undoubtedly were much more of warriors).

     
  • At 3:14 PM, Blogger Kevin said…

    ...much more of warriors -- but nowhere in the vacinity of where we have been talking about.

     
  • At 3:22 PM, Blogger NDwalters said…

    Wikipedia? Not a bad source.... They put neutrality disclaimers, which is good.

    They're not like MoveOn.org or others that assert truth, but forgot those pesky sources.

     

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