Energy Bill almost blocked, and we have high gas prices...WTF is this?
LINK: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,171593,00.html
STORY:
Refinery Bill Passes Amid Partisan Split
Friday, October 07, 2005
WASHINGTON — The House narrowly approved a Republican-crafted energy bill Friday aimed at encouraging construction of new refineries, although opponents said it would do nothing to ease energy prices while handing unneeded benefits to a profit-rich oil industry.
Supporters of the measure said that hurricanes Katrina and Rita made clear that the country needs more refineries, including new ones outside of the Gulf region. Critics argued it would allow the oil industry to avoid environmental regulations that would lead to dirtier air.
OK, this may be a stupid question, but since we have high gas prices, why in the HELL aren't we more onboard to make refineries to drop the prices? When I last checked, oil was at near $60 a barrel, yet the pump price is not budging. The oil companies so, we don't have enough refineries.... Well, you profiteers, build some more! Put those record profit margins to productive use. Oh wait, the government has to allow them to be built. While this bill narrowly passed, it's disturbing how narrow it was. Oddly enough, almost along partisan lines. Although, there were some RINOs and so-called independents thinking about the caribou or some other animals in the gulf. Screw the caribou, and f-ck the gulf, our money and our livelihood is in dire straits. Build them refineries....
The bill passed 212-210. Its prospects in the Senate were uncertain.
The vote, which was supposed to be taken in five minutes, lasted more than 40 minutes as GOP leaders searched for the last two votes they needed to get the bill approved. They buttonholed lawmakers for last-minute lobbying as Democrats complained loudly that the vote should be closed. Finally two GOP lawmakers switched from "no" to "yes," giving the bill's supporters the margin of victory.
During the fight, some Democrats who had supported the legislation also switched their votes to "no." In the end, no Democrats voted for the legislation.
Leave it to the Demonrats to try and screw us over. I guess they think we need to be MORE like Europe, seeing how they have bicycles and compact cars galore... Oh wait, Europe isn't sitting over much oil. We are. And nice to see the Democrats waffle on their support. 'We voted for the energy bill, before we voted against it, huh huh huh huh....' Typical Kerry type flip flopping....
Rep. Joe Barton (search), R-Texas, said the bill streamlines the maze of permitting requirements for expanding or building refineries and directs the president to single out federal land where a refinery may be built. The changes could lead to construction of a new U.S. refinery within a year, he predicted.
Last refineries were built as the EPA was growing. In 30 years, we can build refineries that are safer and more eco-friendly. But, wait, the EPA says we must all use bicycles and not eat meat. Screw em....
But opponents said the legislation fails to address the rising cost of natural gas -- which will cause heating costs to soar this winter -- or deal with high prices motorists are paying at the pump. Instead, they argued, it will allow the oil industry to avoid environmental rules and force states and communities to accept refineries they don't want.
Violin playing for the Democrats latest shpeel....
"Using Hurricane Katrina as their excuses the Republicans are again pushing their special interest agenda," said Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi of California, including "all the special favors to the industry that were too extreme" for Congress last summer when it passed energy legislation.
And look who speaks out against so-called Special Interests.... This is the moron who said Iraq was about oil. Well, Nancy, how come our gas prices aren't going down, since we "plundered" Iraq? Do you have a viable solution? No? Well, take a nice cup of Shut the F-ck Up then.....
But Barton said the need for more refineries was made obvious by hurricanes Katrina and Rita. The hurricanes shut down a dozen refineries and disrupted a fifth of the country's gasoline supply.
The GOP legislation would give the federal government greater say in locating a refinery, at times, critics said, over community or state objections. It directs the president to select a number of closed military bases and other federal land available for refineries.
The bill also would limit to six the different blends of gasoline and diesel fuel that refiners would be required to produce, reversing a trend of using so-called "boutique" fuels to satisfy clean air demands. State officials complained the provision could limit states' ability to implement federal clean air requirements.
More wrangling and whining as impending inflation and fuel prices go up. Thank you EPA. You will be responsible for economic collapse....
"The bill weakens state and federal environmental standards ... and gives a break to wealthy oil companies while doing little or nothing to affect oil prices," complained Rep. Sherwood Boehlert, R-N.Y., one of 13 Republicans who voted against the measure.
With prices soaring, "oil companies now have all the profits and incentives they need to build new refineries" without government help, he maintained.
A New York RINO votes against lower gas prices, what a shock! And of course, he drank the Oil is Bad Kool Aid. That oil is bad thing, wasn't so loud when your party and Democrats were taking kickbacks from Standard Oil and overseas bribes from BP and Shell b/f. WWII. Hypocrites....
Barton countered that the legislation would give industry more "certainty" that a refinery project will not be delayed "without lessening any environmental law now on the books. ... The bill sets in motion a chain of events for lowering gas prices for Americans."
Attempts to add requirements that automakers increase vehicle fuel economy and a measure aimed at producing more natural gas were thwarted by GOP leaders who strictly limited the ability of lawmakers to amend the bill.
"Natural gas is an issue this (Congress) needs to deal with," said Rep. John Peterson, R-Pa., who was prevented under House rules for the bill from offering a proposal that would have opened offshore natural gas resources to drilling.
Uh-huh, gotcha...
Among the groups trying to kill the bill were the National League of Cities (search), nine state attorneys general, most environmental organizations and groups representing state officials in charge of implementing federal clean air requirements. They said the bill would hinder their ability to ensure clean and healthy air.
Awww, they're worried about the poor wittle animals, and the air. Well, worry more when we don't have money to spend on crap we need, yet the world is pristine and everyone is poor...
STORY:
Refinery Bill Passes Amid Partisan Split
Friday, October 07, 2005
WASHINGTON — The House narrowly approved a Republican-crafted energy bill Friday aimed at encouraging construction of new refineries, although opponents said it would do nothing to ease energy prices while handing unneeded benefits to a profit-rich oil industry.
Supporters of the measure said that hurricanes Katrina and Rita made clear that the country needs more refineries, including new ones outside of the Gulf region. Critics argued it would allow the oil industry to avoid environmental regulations that would lead to dirtier air.
OK, this may be a stupid question, but since we have high gas prices, why in the HELL aren't we more onboard to make refineries to drop the prices? When I last checked, oil was at near $60 a barrel, yet the pump price is not budging. The oil companies so, we don't have enough refineries.... Well, you profiteers, build some more! Put those record profit margins to productive use. Oh wait, the government has to allow them to be built. While this bill narrowly passed, it's disturbing how narrow it was. Oddly enough, almost along partisan lines. Although, there were some RINOs and so-called independents thinking about the caribou or some other animals in the gulf. Screw the caribou, and f-ck the gulf, our money and our livelihood is in dire straits. Build them refineries....
The bill passed 212-210. Its prospects in the Senate were uncertain.
The vote, which was supposed to be taken in five minutes, lasted more than 40 minutes as GOP leaders searched for the last two votes they needed to get the bill approved. They buttonholed lawmakers for last-minute lobbying as Democrats complained loudly that the vote should be closed. Finally two GOP lawmakers switched from "no" to "yes," giving the bill's supporters the margin of victory.
During the fight, some Democrats who had supported the legislation also switched their votes to "no." In the end, no Democrats voted for the legislation.
Leave it to the Demonrats to try and screw us over. I guess they think we need to be MORE like Europe, seeing how they have bicycles and compact cars galore... Oh wait, Europe isn't sitting over much oil. We are. And nice to see the Democrats waffle on their support. 'We voted for the energy bill, before we voted against it, huh huh huh huh....' Typical Kerry type flip flopping....
Rep. Joe Barton (search), R-Texas, said the bill streamlines the maze of permitting requirements for expanding or building refineries and directs the president to single out federal land where a refinery may be built. The changes could lead to construction of a new U.S. refinery within a year, he predicted.
Last refineries were built as the EPA was growing. In 30 years, we can build refineries that are safer and more eco-friendly. But, wait, the EPA says we must all use bicycles and not eat meat. Screw em....
But opponents said the legislation fails to address the rising cost of natural gas -- which will cause heating costs to soar this winter -- or deal with high prices motorists are paying at the pump. Instead, they argued, it will allow the oil industry to avoid environmental rules and force states and communities to accept refineries they don't want.
Violin playing for the Democrats latest shpeel....
"Using Hurricane Katrina as their excuses the Republicans are again pushing their special interest agenda," said Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi of California, including "all the special favors to the industry that were too extreme" for Congress last summer when it passed energy legislation.
And look who speaks out against so-called Special Interests.... This is the moron who said Iraq was about oil. Well, Nancy, how come our gas prices aren't going down, since we "plundered" Iraq? Do you have a viable solution? No? Well, take a nice cup of Shut the F-ck Up then.....
But Barton said the need for more refineries was made obvious by hurricanes Katrina and Rita. The hurricanes shut down a dozen refineries and disrupted a fifth of the country's gasoline supply.
The GOP legislation would give the federal government greater say in locating a refinery, at times, critics said, over community or state objections. It directs the president to select a number of closed military bases and other federal land available for refineries.
The bill also would limit to six the different blends of gasoline and diesel fuel that refiners would be required to produce, reversing a trend of using so-called "boutique" fuels to satisfy clean air demands. State officials complained the provision could limit states' ability to implement federal clean air requirements.
More wrangling and whining as impending inflation and fuel prices go up. Thank you EPA. You will be responsible for economic collapse....
"The bill weakens state and federal environmental standards ... and gives a break to wealthy oil companies while doing little or nothing to affect oil prices," complained Rep. Sherwood Boehlert, R-N.Y., one of 13 Republicans who voted against the measure.
With prices soaring, "oil companies now have all the profits and incentives they need to build new refineries" without government help, he maintained.
A New York RINO votes against lower gas prices, what a shock! And of course, he drank the Oil is Bad Kool Aid. That oil is bad thing, wasn't so loud when your party and Democrats were taking kickbacks from Standard Oil and overseas bribes from BP and Shell b/f. WWII. Hypocrites....
Barton countered that the legislation would give industry more "certainty" that a refinery project will not be delayed "without lessening any environmental law now on the books. ... The bill sets in motion a chain of events for lowering gas prices for Americans."
Attempts to add requirements that automakers increase vehicle fuel economy and a measure aimed at producing more natural gas were thwarted by GOP leaders who strictly limited the ability of lawmakers to amend the bill.
"Natural gas is an issue this (Congress) needs to deal with," said Rep. John Peterson, R-Pa., who was prevented under House rules for the bill from offering a proposal that would have opened offshore natural gas resources to drilling.
Uh-huh, gotcha...
Among the groups trying to kill the bill were the National League of Cities (search), nine state attorneys general, most environmental organizations and groups representing state officials in charge of implementing federal clean air requirements. They said the bill would hinder their ability to ensure clean and healthy air.
Awww, they're worried about the poor wittle animals, and the air. Well, worry more when we don't have money to spend on crap we need, yet the world is pristine and everyone is poor...
7 Comments:
At 3:49 PM, Ranando said…
I've got a great idea.
You might already know that Willie Nelson's buses run on veg. oil. He also has a Benz that runs on veg. oil and his wife has a VW that runs on soy beans.
Why don't we have our farmers grow our fuel.
- No polution.
- No Saudies.
- Puts farmers to work.
- Cars and trucks run as well on veg. oil as they do gas.
- People who get fired from the big oil companies, can go to work for a whole new industry.
- Everybody wins except Bush and Cheney, they lose money.
Just an idea........
At 7:08 PM, Ranando said…
Chefwes,
Makes sense to me and I agree with you. I just wanted to point out that there are other ways.
At 7:19 PM, Ranando said…
Via Think Progress:
Right-Wing House Twists Arms, Thwarts Democracy To Pass Oil Industy Windfall
Emotions erupted on the floor of the House of Representatives this afternoon as the right-wing-led Congress held open yet another vote to twist arms and pass a bill that would line the pockets of energy company executives. The House leadership held the five-minute vote open for almost 50 minutes until they could convince three lawmakers — Reps. Wayne Gilcrest (R-MD), C.W. Bill Young (R-FL) and Jim Gerlach (R-PA) — to change their minds. The bill passed 212-210. As the vote concluded, opponents of the bill chanted in unity: “Shame, Shame, Shame!”
Watch in streaming Quicktime (refresh if video doesn’t load)
The vote was held on the “Gasoline for America’s Security Act of 2005,” a provision sponsored by Rep. Joe Barton (R-TX) to nominally “expedite the construction of new refining capacity.” But the bill is essentially a giveback to the oil industry — Rep. Edward Markey (D-MA) called it a “leave-no-oilman-behind bill.”
The antics of right-wingers on the House floor today mirrored their previous strong-arm tactics in passing CAFTA and prescription drug legislation – bills that, like today’s, favored large corporations. In July 2005, the House passed CAFTA with a slim two-vote margin after holding the vote open for an hour and 45 minutes. In November 2003, in the dead of night, the House leadership passed the Medicare prescription drug vote by five votes after holding the vote open for three hours.
The Center for American Progress released a report today detailing the profiteering of oil executives while American families struggle with higher gas prices.
Yep, this government is done.
At 9:17 PM, Ranando said…
Chefwes,
Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, don't you ever get tried of making a fool out of yourself?
If you can't discuss issues and agree to disagree then go do what Republicans are best. Go choke your chicken, polish your rocket and/or spank your monkey.
At 3:40 PM, NDwalters said…
Chef Wes, I cited your hard work on the OU Bomber story. Also, Wes, I have to agree. As the target of many personal attacks, I find it odd that facts are not refuted, and it's just a bitch fest.....
At 12:11 PM, NDwalters said…
We're on oil Kevin, stay on topic, mmmm-kay?
FYI, we celebrated the A-Bomb, and you can bet China, Korea, and other lands that suffered under Japan did also.
V-E Day, V-J Day, reason to celebrate. Unless you wanted the enemy to win, or think Neville Chamberlain was right....
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